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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-28-2012, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Stalling Issue

Help!! I pray someone has an answer for me. I've read many posts about this issue, but didn't see any answers or fixes.

I have a 2007 Commander (Overland) with a 5.7L HEMI engine. Everything on it is stock. I just bought it used about three weeks ago.

It sporadically (at highway speeds) will stall when aggressively accelerating - during downshift. It needs to be pretty aggressive acceleration to get it to do it, but when it does it - it's SCARY. There are two scenarios that occur -

1) When downshifting the Jeep stalls and very quickly picks itself back up and running again. (usually within 1 or 2 seconds) I will lose all power (including electrical systems) for a brief moment and then it will pick itself back up again and everything operates as usual.

2) When downshifting the Jeep stalls and is unable to recover itself. I will lose all power and electrical systems and as such - must coast to the side of the road. Now when this happens I've noticed something...if I coast to the side of the road, put the Jeep in park and then simply turn the key to restart it - it won't restart. However if I turn the key completely off - remove the key and put it back it...it will start right up!

As I mentioned this is sporadic and I've not been able to intentionally cause it to stall - it's random.

So far I've taken it to the Jeep dealer (and spent about $1,000) to have the following work done:

1) There was a clunking noise when coming out of reverse. The dealer said it was the front differential bushing. They replaced the bushing and the transmission pan gasket.

2) Stalling when driving - the dealer replaced the ECM and performed 'software updates' on the Jeep. They mentioned something about a known problem with the wireless ECM and needed to replace it and update some software. But it did not work. The other day I was accelerating on the on-ramp of the freeway...it stalled.

Can someone PLEASE help me?!?! Has anyone been able to figure out the problem and more importantly WHAT FIXES THE PROBLEM?

I'm at a complete loss. I've read there are some recalls on certain Jeeps for this exact problem - but my VIN is not included in the recall. And of course, since I bought it used....I own it. I'm sad - and scared.

I bought this to pull my boat - if it stalls going up or downhill with a boat attached - I'm afraid the results could be fatal.

Help me.
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I'd replace the crankshaft and camshaft positioning sensors, easy to get to and not very expensive. They go bad and are directly related to stalling.


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I'd replace the crankshaft and camshaft positioning sensors, easy to get to and not very expensive. They go bad and are directly related to stalling.
I don't think this is his solution. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with his ESP. That's what it does -- it cuts the power to the engine when it is activated, thus the "stalling" effect.

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But why does the esp activate during downshifting?


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But why does the esp activate during downshifting?
I haven't got a clue.

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It's not ESP related. We just had a snow and the ESP worked a lot (and surprisingly well actually), but didn't stall the Jeep.
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See if this affects your year:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...ep_recall.html

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I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, as I am having related problems in an '06 with 3.7 L.

The only difference is that mine will do this without acceleration, just idling or driving at a smooth/constant pace in the city. Mine has always saved itself before completely stalling.

The second time it happened I was messing with the driver's side window, going up and down trying to get the "auto" function to stop where I wanted it, and the next time I was at a red light and right when I put on my left turn signal it started happening. That made me think there might be a short somewhere in a wiring harness, but not sure.

It will continue the die/restart process until I stop, take the key out, and restart. After that all seems good again.

Oddly enough, the very first time this happened, I was unknowingly using a defective key (the chip inside is defective and not always recognized by the on-board computer - sometimes it works, sometimes it won't). That made me wonder if the on-board computer might need reset or reprogrammed by the dealer.

I drive the car about once a week and this only happens to me, and my wife drives the car daily and she has never had a problem. I did replace the oil pressure sending switch a few weeks ago, but I would not think that would be related, and haven't had the oil light come on since.

shanealbrandt - if you ever get this resolved please post solution. Like I said earlier, this is my wife's daily driver and I'd hate to see it actually stall and die at highway speed with her and kids in car.
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It's not ESP related. We just had a snow and the ESP worked a lot (and surprisingly well actually), but didn't stall the Jeep.
Whatever you say. I guess you know more than I do.

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Something you might want to try is changing your transmission filters (there are 2) and see if that helps.

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