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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 12-22-2009, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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windshield washer not working

Both front windshield washers are not working, however the rear one is working. This has happened a couple of weeks ago and has been fine since.

We just came back from an 11 hour trip to NY and the temperature was about 25. I believe the fluid is not frozen so I have no clue what the problem is.

Also, do we have only 1 fluid pump that controls the front and rear?

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Two pumps in one bottle.
The rear pump sits higher and once fluid drops to its level, the front still has some fluid to work with.
With the hood up, and you listening with the key on, not running, have someone pull the lever to see if you can hear the motor.
They are fairly noisey as little pump motors go.
I am not certain if they are individually fused but I'll bet they are on a shared power circuit.
Since you said it misbehaved once before....I'll bet the motor is going away.

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Thanks Robby, I will test it out tomorrow.

I am not great with electrical components, but how would I know I have a bad relay?

I am just trying to think of other possibilities just in case I do hear the motor.

It will stink if I can't get this to work when we will head back home through wet snow without a clean windshield.

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Although someone with a service manual will need to chime in, it is not custumary for this circuit to require a relay.....very low draw component.
The reason I think you should listen for the pump motor to run is to determine if the motor is inoperative or the hose is obstructed with????
Doubt if ice is involved though, otherwise the rear wouldn't work either.
By reviewing the owners manual in the fuse section you will be able to determine if the two motors are seperately fused.
Again though, since you indicated it stopped working once already, and then recovered, I'm still thinking likely washer motor failure.

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Update: Well, just went outside to see if the motor is working. I did hear the front and rear motors turning.

Now the rear wiper washer is not working. I did fill up the washer fluid, but it only took a cup or two.

Is it possible the dealership just added water or added water to their washer fluid?

I just don't understand why now this is happening.

Note: I do take the Commander to the dealership for the $18 oil change, but I will probably switch to synthetic soon.

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Just came back from a parking garage in town and now both are working. I guess I just keep crossing my fingers whenever I pull back on the lever.

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I would guess you have blue water for washer fluid and that it is freezing up. Washer fluid should be mixed with methenol to prevent freezing. The down side is that most shops deal with concentrate washer fluid that each dilute before putting into vehicles. Methenol is typically only available from distributors during the winter months and it is rather pricey per drum. As part of regular winterization, washer fluid should be flushed and changed with either the methenol fluid or some other de-icing fluid.


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I think there was a discussion on this last winter. You can probably get some concentrated methenol at a hardware store, auto parts store or maybe drugstore and add some to your washer fluid container to lower the freezing point.

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I think there was a discussion on this last winter. You can probably get some concentrated methenol at a hardware store, auto parts store or maybe drugstore and add some to your washer fluid container to lower the freezing point.
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7606&highlight=washer+fluid&page= 5

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