Daytime Running Lights

How hard would it be to add the daytime running light module (used in Canadian XKs) to a US XK? Is it plug and play?

I hate DRL's. Why would you want DRL's?
Just turn your lights on.

I hate DRL's. Why would you want DRL's?
Just turn your lights on.

I guess a matter of opinion. I like DRLs as they increase your visibility to other drivers (especially on gray days). Yes, I could just turn my lights on or I could get a DRL module which is what I was asking about.

Who invented seatbelts? Volvo

Who pressured the Swedish government into making DRLs mandatory? Volvo

Who fit DRLs on their cars for all markets? Volvo

Who arguably make the safest cars on the road? Volvo

Not a huge Volvo fan but they do have some good ideas and there was a significant increase in road safety in Sweden when they brought in the DRL

I agree, we had a chevy prior which had DRL's. Loved them because it was automatic and good to have driving in Mexico. If anyone finds the module, please holler out.

According to the NHSTA web site it is optional as an 07 feature. I'd be willing to bet there is a module for this.

It is in the Canadian versions so I am just curious if this just plugs in to a US Commander without changing any wiring.

Just talked to my dealer and they seemed to think the wiring harness would be different. I really wish I had an official answer.

There's actually no seperate module for this. The daytime running lights are controlled by the front control module which pretty much controls all your options. You should be able to go to the dealer and get them to hook up the StarScan to upgrade your options to include DRL. It may only be able to be done at the factory, not sure.

YB Normyl is corret. I just had mine turned on via a laptop plugged into the dash. Took 30 seconds. I also had the option of choosing any combination of any of the lights to use as the running lights. Pretty cool. I chose the yellow blinkers only to be on.

YB Normyl - That's good info for those of us thinking about this option, now I have to decide what lights to have as running lights. Thanks

Wow, that's good to know. I guess I will have to remember that when I go for the first oil change... which will probably be a few months with the slow rate I am putting miles on it.

I wonder if there any other cool options you can turn on in there. Too bad I can't just go hook up my own laptop to it and look myself. :-(

Very cool! Thanks Gentlemen!

YB Normyl is corret. I just had mine turned on via a laptop plugged into the dash. Took 30 seconds. I also had the option of choosing any combination of any of the lights to use as the running lights. Pretty cool. I chose the yellow blinkers only to be on.

I wonder if this is how I see so many Grand Prix's running with parking lights all the time. My DRL's are my headlights on my 2006 Grand Prix and none on the Commander. I would personally like to have the parking lights and possibly fogs running for my DRL's. Do you know if this is an option on most vehicles or not? Did it cost anything to have them do this for you?

Very good info thanks TELL!:)

YB Normyl is corret. I just had mine turned on via a laptop plugged into the dash. Took 30 seconds. I also had the option of choosing any combination of any of the lights to use as the running lights. Pretty cool. I chose the yellow blinkers only to be on.


Great news. Your dealer did this, correct? I can't wait to see the pleased look on my service writer's face when I tell him I want this done.

YB Normyl is corret. I just had mine turned on via a laptop plugged into the dash. Took 30 seconds. I also had the option of choosing any combination of any of the lights to use as the running lights. Pretty cool. I chose the yellow blinkers only to be on.

What dealership? Reason I am asking is I will request my DS turn this feature on - even if I have to pay for the service - and I want to be able to say "yes you can do that" if/when they try to say they cannot. :rolleyes:

BTW: May I ask if there was a charge for this?

I just got my Commander from AEV after having the superlift installed and as I stood there to pick it up, they not only turned on the running lights, but also when I put the vehicle in reverse, the side mirrors angle down to see the ground better. They also turned on the function that allows you to just tap the blinker once and it blinks 3 times for a lane change. I'm not sure if a dealer would charge for this or not. It's a 2006 Limited. It all took about 2 minutes. There's even a function (which I didn't get) that allows you to have the lights flash up front like an emergency vehicle's lights.

I was told a dealer could do all of this as well, but whether or not they know how and/or would do it is a question I cannot answer. Hope that helps.

There's even a function (which I didn't get) that allows you to have the lights flash up front like an emergency vehicle's lights.

Interesting. I wonder how you turn them on and off once this is activated.

I definitely would like the mirror turn down in reverse and the daytime running lights. For 2007 we already have the three-blink lane change.

that mirror turn down feature is sweet, I had no idea it was available on the Commander. Thanks for the great info! The cost of my membership here is really starting to pay off!! :D

Well I had my first service on my Commander and the dealership was able to activate the mirrors to turn down in reverse but said they could not activate the daytime running lights or the flash to pass turn signals. I am not sure if they just cannot do it due to design or the service tech. did not know how. They asked me to call back Monday and check with a tech who is supposedly more qualified but was off for training. I will keep you posted. The dealership did not charge me to activate the mirrors and said if they can find a way to activate the other features they will free of charge as well. If anyone can pass along the star scan codes for the flash to pass and the running lights it may help. Thanks

I'm with Commander Ron on this too.

Wow, I like this thread. Guess I looked over it. One question though. Are these all on a Limited edition, or have some of you had it done on the Base too?

If anyone can pass along the star scan codes for the flash to pass and the running lights it may help. Thanks

Yes, let us know if anyone else gets the daytime running lights working and what the codes/steps to activate are.

Enabling the DRL should be the easy one, with the StarScan under Dealer Preparations scroll down to DRL, enter and I think its' in Misc Functions or Other, can't remember which but it gives you the option to enable DRL. Most of the features are controlled by the FCM (front control module), I don't know about the StarScan but using MDT it's all under FCM Reconfigurable. The MDT is a factory tool so I'm not sure about dealer usage.

Enabling the DRL should be the easy one, with the StarScan under Dealer Preparations scroll down to DRL, enter and I think its' in Misc Functions or Other, can't remember which but it gives you the option to enable DRL. Most of the features are controlled by the FCM (front control module), I don't know about the StarScan but using MDT it's all under FCM Reconfigurable. The MDT is a factory tool so I'm not sure about dealer usage.

Tell, can you let us know if yours was done using StarScan or MDT?

Just a note, all the other goodies like selecting the lights for DRL, sig indicator for changing lanes, mirrors etc are all under the MDT FCM Reconfigurable.

I am going to stop by my dealership on Friday with my Commander and see what can be configured on the 2007s.

I will let you know how things go.

I'm not sure if AEV used Starscan or MDT to do mine. Sorry.

An update... went to the dealership... on the Starscan tool we found the DRL option under FCM, but it told us thank you very much but "the vehicle was not certified for using the DRL". We couldn't find the option to turn the mirrors down on reverse.

One of the techs is going to email DCX to find out what we are missing and I am going to do a little research.

Cool deal, keep us updated.

Looking forward to updates. I have also sent an e-mail to the service manager at my dealership - will let you know what I can find out.

Looking forward to updates. I have also sent an e-mail to the service manager at my dealership - will let you know what I can find out.

Thanks. Hopefully we can figure this out.

Just an update... I spoke with Kent at AEV. They apparently use a propietary configuration tool on their Commanders so that is how they enabled those items.

Still looking for options but based on current progress it doesn't look very promising.

Exactly what are all the features you want to enable? Anyone know if there's a high line and low line instrument cluster? This would also effect the availability of some features. Also, the 300C which uses the CAN bus has some cool things you can do with the steering wheel buttons, I'll look for the link.

Exactly what are all the features you want to enable? Anyone know if there's a high line and low line instrument cluster? This would also effect the availability of some features. Also, the 300C which uses the CAN bus has some cool things you can do with the steering wheel buttons, I'll look for the link.

I want to enable the Daytime Running Lights and I want to enable the mirror auto turn down (in reverse) feature. If there is a high line and low line cluster I would imagine I have the high line as I have a fully loaded Limited.

I like the lane change feature!

I like the lane change feature!

Yes, that is already enabled on the 2007s and I get too used to it and then I get in my Cherokee and wonder why it doesn't do the same thing. :rolleyes:

This would be an interesting site to watch their progress.

http://www.canhack.org/board/viewforum.php?f=10&sid=0be6a7d7fab9934e76f7aa86ec8b7951

I was able to have my dealer activate the daytime running lights. He said when using the starscan and a notice appears that the vehicle is not certified or equiped to have this function all the service tech needs to do is first change the country code for the vehicle to Canada and then they can be activated. After they are simply change the country code back to USA. Mine or working fine and I believe they are the high beams at a lower power when they are on. They come on as soon as the Commander is put into drive. The mirror turn down feature also works but we are still working on the turn signals flashing 3 times to pass or change lanes. Hope this helps

I was able to have my dealer activate the daytime running lights. He said when using the starscan and a notice appears that the vehicle is not certified or equiped to have this function all the service tech needs to do is first change the country code for the vehicle to Canada and then they can be activated. After they are simply change the country code back to USA. Mine or working fine and I believe they are the high beams at a lower power when they are on. They come on as soon as the Commander is put into drive. The mirror turn down feature also works but we are still working on the turn signals flashing 3 times to pass or change lanes. Hope this helps

Sweet, we weren't sure if you could flip the setting back to US. Where did you find the mirror turn down (could you find out from your dealer where in Starscan that option is located).

I don't think any of my dealerships here in Northern New Jersey would even attempt to try any of these things.

I just noticed that my lane change feature only works if the headlights are on. Make sure when you get yours done that it works both with and without the headlights. There must be two locations to change the setting.

Thanks for the info, we'll see if my dealer is willing to help.

I just noticed that my lane change feature only works if the headlights are on. Make sure when you get yours done that it works both with and without the headlights. There must be two locations to change the setting.

It may be because AEV is not using the Starscan tool to enable them. I know on my 2007 the lane change works (from the factory) with lights on or off.

Looking forward to updates. I have also sent an e-mail to the service manager at my dealership - will let you know what I can find out.
I just scheduled a service call for 12/19 - The service manager seems to think they can turn on the DRL and mirror tilt feature - they are still looking into the 3-blink lane change feature.

I'll update next week.

I just scheduled a service call for 12/19 - The service manager seems to think they can turn on the DRL and mirror tilt feature - they are still looking into the 3-blink lane change feature.

Let me know how they enable the mirror tilt (which menus in Starscan they go into) and if they use the US->CA->US trick to enable the DRLs.

Let me know how they enable the mirror tilt (which menus in Starscan they go into) and if they use the US->CA->US trick to enable the DRLs.

I just got my XK back and the dealership used Starscan to enable the mirror tilt. I believe the menu is Configure, if it is not, then the feature is in the same section in Starscan where you can program EVIC items like auto door lock, auto high beam, rain sensor, auto door unlock on exit, etc... The feature is cool, but my only complaint is that it rolls both driver and passenger mirrors down.

When I asked why don't they have the auto mirror down feature enabled by default, they told me that it puts too much wear on the mirror motors. :confused: Then why do most luxury vehicles like BMW's and Benz have it enabled. What us Jeep owners cant afford it? LOL I rather replace a motor on a mirror than have my wife scratch my rims on a curb.

Oh if any of you know where to enable the 3-blink signal feature please let me know. The technician could not find it in Starscan.

Update - I just picked up my Commander from the service department. They were able to easily get the DRL and mirror tilt down features enabled - and at no charge :D

DRL should be easy, with the Starscan either go to FCM or New Vehicle Preperation. Tilt mirror should be under under customer prefs, this is where you can set things the car cant do on its own, usually because it doesnt have the menu buttons or EVIC software. Some have this built in and you can turn them on and off with the EVIC menu, others dont and need a scanner. There are a lot of things you can enable with the scanner, especially by changing the country code, but not all of them are legal for the US so your dealer may refuse. DRLs are fine, and the mirror feature, but the illegal ones I wont mention (and dont do) or someone will drive his service writer crazy trying to pressure him into doing it, lol.

DRL should be easy, with the Starscan either go to FCM or New Vehicle Preperation. Tilt mirror should be under under customer prefs, this is where you can set things the car cant do on its own, usually because it doesnt have the menu buttons or EVIC software. Some have this built in and you can turn them on and off with the EVIC menu, others dont and need a scanner. There are a lot of things you can enable with the scanner, especially by changing the country code, but not all of them are legal for the US so your dealer may refuse. DRLs are fine, and the mirror feature, but the illegal ones I wont mention (and dont do) or someone will drive his service writer crazy trying to pressure him into doing it, lol.
Come on, give us hint on those illegal ones. You can't just tell there are some without telling us what they are:p Just one, please:p

Come on, give us hint on those illegal ones. You can't just tell there are some without telling us what they are:p Just one, please:p

DRL's must be legal in the US. Chevrolet has them on most vehicles. When I take mine in for servicing I will post the dealership name if it's good or bad. If they aren't willing to accomodate I'm sure other dealerships would rather take my money for the servicing I will get over the lifetime of the vehicle. Sometimes there are silly rules. Not having this as an option is one of them..always, always promote safety.

Just tried to get my dealer to add the three blinks..... he could not find an "entry". Went up the hill to an 07 and behold! He could add that feature! (it was not pre-programmed for it from the factory)

Just tried to get my dealer to add the three blinks..... he could not find an "entry". Went up the hill to an 07 and behold! He could add that feature! (it was not pre-programmed for it from the factory)

Weird, my 2007 had the three-blink enabled from the factory. In fact XKJEEPS.COM lists that as one of the upgrades for 2007.

I agree Rubi!

DRL's must be legal in the US. Chevrolet has them on most vehicles. When I take mine in for servicing I will post the dealership name if it's good or bad. If they aren't willing to accomodate I'm sure other dealerships would rather take my money for the servicing I will get over the lifetime of the vehicle. Sometimes there are silly rules. Not having this as an option is one of them..always, always promote safety.


DRLs are legal, and I have turned them on for a few 300 owners. A lot of Techs just dont know until they try, we get paid by the job and dont really get a lot of time to sit around playing with the scanners to see what they will do. Usually we find out when someone asks about it and we have to look into it, same reason why so many dont know about a new TSB, we dont have time to look for them until we have a car in our bay that needs to be fixed.

DRL's must be legal in the US. Chevrolet has them on most vehicles. When I take mine in for servicing I will post the dealership name if it's good or bad. If they aren't willing to accomodate I'm sure other dealerships would rather take my money for the servicing I will get over the lifetime of the vehicle. Sometimes there are silly rules. Not having this as an option is one of them..always, always promote safety.
I know in Germany light on in the daytime is more a safety violation rather than a safety feature. They say because of motorcyclists have to keep there light on. Confussion, they say. It's a habit for me to automaticlly turn my headlights on when I start the vehicle. and I get flashed, honked at all day long to turn my lights out:rolleyes:

Interesting twist and POV Bravo. Never considered a relationship to motorcycles. When I drive in Mexico or back road high desert areas the DRL's really give you a time advantage as you are seen well before vehicles without DRL's.

This is Baja during a sandstorm down by the Sea of Cortez on one of the better roads.

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Interesting twist and POV Bravo. Never considered a relationship to motorcycles. When I drive in Mexico or back road high desert areas the DRL's really give you a time advantage as you are seen well before vehicles without DRL's.

This is Baja during a sandstorm down by the Sea of Cortez on one of the better roads.

I don't think there i a law on that here. just a expectation or something.I heard that from a driving instructor. I sure can see your need for them though. Is it that sandy where you live all the time?

I don't think there i a law on that here. just a expectation or something.I heard that from a driving instructor. I sure can see your need for them though. Is it that sandy where you live all the time?

Most of the area is sandy, especially in the deserts. Baja Mexico resembles these photos. It is really beautiful. Nightime skys are super clear. If the winds kick up realy high you will get a sandstorm like this, otherwise it is very clear.

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DRL should be easy, with the Starscan either go to FCM or New Vehicle Preperation. Tilt mirror should be under under customer prefs, this is where you can set things the car cant do on its own, usually because it doesnt have the menu buttons or EVIC software. Some have this built in and you can turn them on and off with the EVIC menu, others dont and need a scanner. There are a lot of things you can enable with the scanner, especially by changing the country code, but not all of them are legal for the US so your dealer may refuse. DRLs are fine, and the mirror feature, but the illegal ones I wont mention (and dont do) or someone will drive his service writer crazy trying to pressure him into doing it, lol.
just spoke to my service manager in the UK, he said as from 07 spec, commanders mirror tilt is not an option, does not show up on the starscan? Just my bloody luck!

just spoke to my service manager in the UK, he said as from 07 spec, commanders mirror tilt is not an option, does not show up on the starscan? Just my bloody luck!

Probably why we couldn't find it on my 07 either. :-(

Got a Dealer Tech guy lookin into options that can be turned on with the StarScan. If he has time he'll write out a menu tree.

Lots of cool StarScan info...

http://www.dcctools.com/en/downloads/index.html

Some of the options under "Customer Preferences" are available in the "Information Center" on the dash. Too bad they all aren't, but it would probably be overkill.

See if any of you guys with dealer connections can determine if there is an option to make ALL the options appear on the "Information Center". Now that would be the ultimate hack!!!

Do any of those downloads have the tree of what items can be configured?

With all of the info gathered from this thread...the stealership was able to enable the DRL.s but not the mirror tilt down in reverse feature. He mentioned it could be cause I don't have other features like the Limited does. For example rain sensored windshield wipers. Does that sound about right?

With all of the info gathered from this thread...the stealership was able to enable the DRL.s but not the mirror tilt down in reverse feature. He mentioned it could be cause I don't have other features like the Limited does. For example rain sensored windshield wipers. Does that sound about right?

You'd need a memory module under the seat and the mirrors need to have memory motors to be able to have the tilt down in reverse. The memory stuff is for the mirror to be able to return to the original position. The rain sensor is also used as a light sensor for auto headlights or you may have a sunsensor on the dash.

Here's the menu in the Dealer Preparation tab of the Starscan.

-Unlock driver door on first press

-Auto door lock/unlock

-Accessory time delay- 0 sec, 45 sec, 5 min, 10 min, 30 min

-Radio clock on/off

-Illuminated entry time- 0 sec, 30 sec, 60 sec, 90 sec

-Country code- ROW, USA, Europe, Canada, England, Japan

-Program tire size-
235/65/17 Wrangler HP
235/65/17 Eagle LS
245/65/17 Wrangler SRA
245/65/17 Wrangler HP
245/65/17 Wrangler AT/R
255/45/20 ZR20 ASP
245/60/18 Wrangler HP AW
245/45/20 ZR20 BSW performance
LT 245/65/17 Wrangler HP
LT 245/65/17 OWL A/T
235/65/17 XL BSW all season
245/65/17 R17 Bsw all season
245/65/17 BSW A/T
235/65/17 SL Wrangler S4

-Enable fog lamp

-Headlamps on with wipers (requires auto headlamp option)

-XK restore vehicle config

-Sound horn on lock

-Program Network config (used to add or remove a module from CAN bus)

-Flash headlamps on lock

-Trailer tow relay outputs

-Add NAV radio

-Enable DRL

-FCM horn chirp duration

-Headlamp time delay

-Reset ECU (radio)

-Program keys or FOBs (WCM)


*These are off a base 06 XK, not sure if an 06 Limited or an 07 would have more.

W/out reading through this whole thread...have any of you noticed that when you turn your blinker on, the same side DRL turns off? I didn't notice it until wife was following me yesterday. I'm not sure what to think of it?

W/out reading through this whole thread...have any of you noticed that when you turn your blinker on, the same side DRL turns off? I didn't notice it until wife was following me yesterday. I'm not sure what to think of it?
This might be a safety feature to make the turn signal more visable.

This might be a safety feature to make the turn signal more visable.
Yep... the first time I noticed this I thought - Great I have a head light out...:mad: Then as soon as I made the turn I noticed the light illuminate. - good thing the truck in fornt of me was nice and shiny so I could notice this :D

Yep... the first time I noticed this I thought - Great I have a head light out...:mad: Then as soon as I made the turn I noticed the light illuminate. - good thing the truck in fornt of me was nice and shiny so I could notice this :D

Can you specifiy which light (headlights, parking lights, fog lights) is illuminated when DRLs are enabled? I know the people who had AEV customize their XK with the AEV program could do that but I am not sure if you can do that with the StarScan.

With all these post can someone now condense into one post exactly what you can and can't do with in regards to DRL & tilt mirrors? Can it be done or not?
Thanks

With all these post can someone now condense into one post exactly what you can and can't do with in regards to DRL & tilt mirrors? Can it be done or not?
Thanks

As of 01/22/2007, the most recent version of StarScan allows the following:
DRLs can apparently be enabled on both 2006 and 2007 models. I believe that you must change the vehicle country code to Canada, then enable DRLs, then turn the country code back to US.

The tilt-down mirrors can apparently be enabled on 2006 models but not 2007 models.
The custom AEV programming tool (only available through AEV and not your local dealership) apparently allows for other features.

Any info on how to obtain the AEV programming tool?

Any info on how to obtain the AEV programming tool?

You have to go to AEV. I belive they are located in Montana.

As of 01/22/2007, the most recent version of StarScan allows the following:
DRLs can apparently be enabled on both 2006 and 2007 models. I believe that you must change the vehicle country code to Canada, then enable DRLs, then turn the country code back to US.

The tilt-down mirrors can apparently be enabled on 2006 models but not 2007 models.
The custom AEV programming tool (only available through AEV and not your local dealership) apparently allows for other features.

Thanks for the info.
Are people finding that the dealers will do this or are some finding the dealer saying they can't or won't do it?

Thanks for the info.
Are people finding that the dealers will do this or are some finding the dealer saying they can't or won't do it?
I sent an e-mail to the owner of the dealership and copied his service manager. The e-mail included a post from this forum regarding how to enable DRL and mirror tilt. My dealership was happy to do this and it was free of charge - it is truly about a 2 minute job. :cool:

Yep... the first time I noticed this I thought - Great I have a head light out...:mad: Then as soon as I made the turn I noticed the light illuminate. - good thing the truck in fornt of me was nice and shiny so I could notice this :D

I thought the same thing and got pissed! haha.

Thanks for the info.
Are people finding that the dealers will do this or are some finding the dealer saying they can't or won't do it?

There is at least one tech at my dealership who will do it. I haven't done the DRLs on mine yet. We just kind of poked around to see what we could find for options. We didn't know about the steps to get the DRLs enabled at the time and since I have a 2007 there is no option for the tilt-down mirrors. :-( I will probably have him enable the DRLs when I go for my first oil change here in a couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by walkjon
Thanks for the info.
Are people finding that the dealers will do this or are some finding the dealer saying they can't or won't do it?

I can't see why they wouldn't, although they could charge a fee for the hook-up of the diagnostic tool and time. Most people that had it done didn't have a problem or get charged.

Well I finally went in for the 1st service (oil change) to Rancho SD in San Diego and asked to get DRL's and rearview mirrors enabled. 1st off, I was prepared to pay a fee because I don't have the tool. After some hemming and hawing the service guy said there would be a charge for the service. He checked and quoted me $45. I raised my eyebrows and said most dealers do this for free as a courtesy and it only takes 2 minutes and he said sorry but... so I said OK. A bit later he returned and said the Commander was ready but they were unable to activate the DRL's to which I replied "did you change the country code to Canada, set the DRL's then reset to the US?" He looked at me funny then went back out and enabled the DRL's. I told him I should charge him $45 for the knowledge hoping he wasn't a idiot and not bill me. He didn't bite.

So the net result will be a nice letter to the dealer about being cheep cheep cheep and I will be taking 100K miles of service revenue to another dealer. Sounds fair to me I guess. It's not about the money. I even gave him a copy of the info listed below so he would know how to do it. If he had read it he wouldn't of had to expose his lack of knowledge and I'd be done with it, trading a free oil change for the activation.

Anyway..someone below requested a compilation of information from earlier posts. I filtered through it and picked pieces I thought to be pertinent.

3K miles-no problems at all and still loving my Jeep.
build date- June of 2006
Limited 5.7

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As of 01/22/2007, the most recent version of StarScan allows the following:
DRLs can apparently be enabled on both 2006 and 2007 models. I believe that you must change the vehicle country code to Canada, then enable DRLs, then turn the country code back to US.

The tilt-down mirrors can apparently be enabled on 2006 models but not 2007 models.

Here's the menu in the Dealer Preparation tab of the Starscan.

-Unlock driver door on first press

-Auto door lock/unlock

-Accessory time delay- 0 sec, 45 sec, 5 min, 10 min, 30 min

-Radio clock on/off

-Illuminated entry time- 0 sec, 30 sec, 60 sec, 90 sec

-Country code- ROW, USA, Europe, Canada, England, Japan

-Program tire size-
235/65/17 Wrangler HP
235/65/17 Eagle LS
245/65/17 Wrangler SRA
245/65/17 Wrangler HP
245/65/17 Wrangler AT/R
255/45/20 ZR20 ASP
245/60/18 Wrangler HP AW
245/45/20 ZR20 BSW performance
LT 245/65/17 Wrangler HP
LT 245/65/17 OWL A/T
235/65/17 XL BSW all season
245/65/17 R17 Bsw all season
245/65/17 BSW A/T
235/65/17 SL Wrangler S4

-Enable fog lamp

-Headlamps on with wipers (requires auto headlamp option)

-XK restore vehicle config

-Sound horn on lock

-Program Network config (used to add or remove a module from CAN bus)

-Flash headlamps on lock

-Trailer tow relay outputs

-Add NAV radio

-Enable DRL

-FCM horn chirp duration

-Headlamp time delay

-Reset ECU (radio)

-Program keys or FOBs (WCM)


*These are off a base 06 XK, not sure if an 06 Limited or an 07 would have more.

You'd need a memory module under the seat and the mirrors need to have memory motors to be able to have the tilt down in reverse. The memory stuff is for the mirror to be able to return to the original position. The rain sensor is also used as a light sensor for auto headlights or you may have a sunsensor on the dash.

DRL should be easy, with the Starscan either go to FCM or New Vehicle Preperation. Tilt mirror should be under under customer prefs, this is where you can set things the car cant do on its own, usually because it doesnt have the menu buttons or EVIC software. Some have this built in and you can turn them on and off with the EVIC menu, others dont and need a scanner. There are a lot of things you can enable with the scanner, especially by changing the country code

Update - I just picked up my Commander from the service department. They were able to easily get the DRL and mirror tilt down features enabled - and at no charge

I just got my XK back and the dealership used Starscan to enable the mirror tilt. I believe the menu is Configure, if it is not, then the feature is in the same section in Starscan where you can program EVIC items like auto door lock, auto high beam, rain sensor, auto door unlock on exit

I was able to have my dealer activate the daytime running lights. He said when using the starscan and a notice appears that the vehicle is not certified or equiped to have this function all the service tech needs to do is first change the country code for the vehicle to Canada and then they can be activated. After they are simply change the country code back to USA. Mine or working fine and I believe they are the high beams at a lower power when they are on. They come on as soon as the Commander is put into drive. The mirror turn down feature also works but we are still working on the turn signals flashing 3 times to pass or change lanes.

I just had mine turned on via a laptop plugged into the dash. Took 30 seconds. I also had the option of choosing any combination of any of the lights to use as the running lights. Pretty cool. I chose the yellow blinkers only to be on.

A bit later he returned and said the Commander was ready but they were unable to activate the DRL's to which I replied "did you change the country code to Canada, set the DRL's then reset to the US?" He looked at me funny then went back out and enabled the DRL's. I told him I should charge him $45 for the knowledge hoping he wasn't a idiot and not bill me. He didn't bite.




LOL.............. good one

So let me get this straight. The tilt mirrors only can be activated on a 06 Limited model, not the base model? The DRLs can be activated on 06 and 07 any models?

I have an '06 base and the dealer attempted to activate the mirror tilt down but informed me I needed the memory for the seat option that is on the limited. The dealership wasn't planning on charging me either way.

So let me get this straight. The tilt mirrors only can be activated on a 06 Limited model, not the base model? The DRLs can be activated on 06 and 07 any models?

Yes, DRLs on any model and tilt mirrors require memory seat module. If you have memory seats, you have the module.

Just got my XK back from the dealership to fix the window and sunroof noise problems. I had them turn on the side mirror turn down feature. They were unable to turn on the 3 blink turn signal feature. They said it wasn't available. In reading through this whole thread, I'm still not sure if it is really not available, or is it only available using a tool/computer that the dealerships do not have? Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks!

Just got my XK back from the dealership to fix the window and sunroof noise problems. I had them turn on the side mirror turn down feature. They were unable to turn on the 3 blink turn signal feature. They said it wasn't available. In reading through this whole thread, I'm still not sure if it is really not available, or is it only available using a tool/computer that the dealerships do not have? Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks!

What is available will vary based on year and trim package (Base/Sport, Limited, Overland). The three-blink signals is standard on 2007 XKs.

Dealers use Starscan or Starmobile dealership programming tools from DCX. This is the only tool they are authorized to use.

AEV has their own tool (might be sourced from DCX as they have a fairly close relationship) that offers additional programming options. Tell (and maybe a couple other users) have had their XKs built up by AEV so have gotten their programming done by them.

rubicon,

Thank you so much for your quick reply - I appreciate it! I guess I have all the options programmed that I'm going to get at this point.

rubicon,

Thank you so much for your quick reply - I appreciate it! I guess I have all the options programmed that I'm going to get at this point.

Keep watch of the Starscan updates: http://www.dcctools.com/en/news/files/?M=D

It appears that the latest update adds Enable DRL for the 2007 XK without having to switch your country?

Also, noticed that diesel diagnostics have been added for the JK. So I am curious if JK the same model name used for the export JK? If not, are we about to see the debut of a diesel Wrangler?

:) You can order your very own Starscan tool here: http://miller.spx.com/data/StarSCAN%20AM%20DC06-476.pdf Only $4350.:eek:

And check out the price on this one! http://miller.spx.com/data/DC05-157.pdf

I am glad I took the time to go through this - At first thought, I would say that my dealer would have no clue about this, but with the number of people who have succesfully done these things, it is well worth the trip to the dealer! I so want the tilt down mirrors. I was very impressed by the BMW I drove last year that had that!

Dealer told me once the DRLs are enabled (2006) they cannot be reversed. Of course he told me this after he had already turned them on.:mad: Anybody know if this is true?

Sounds fishy.

The stealership told my wife the same thing.

Don't think that's true. Most of the stuff in Starscan can be toggled.

Okay, I just got back from the dealer here in Ft. Lauderdale, and they wouldn't enable the DRLs, said it was against the law or something like that. The writer and I went back to talk with the tech and he said that it was hard-coded in the computer when the truck was built and it couldn't be changed. I sounded more like he didn't want to do it or didn't know how to get around the country code issue and that they might not have the latest software for the Star Scan. Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here.

I'll just have my dealer in Colorado do it when I get home, they're more willing to do things like this for me. It just sucks since I wanted this done prior to driving cross country again.

Okay, I just got back from the dealer here in Ft. Lauderdale, and they wouldn't enable the DRLs, said it was against the law or something like that. The writer and I went back to talk with the tech and he said that it was hard-coded in the computer when the truck was built and it couldn't be changed. I sounded more like he didn't want to do it or didn't know how to get around the country code issue and that they might not have the latest software for the Star Scan. Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here.

I'll just have my dealer in Colorado do it when I get home, they're more willing to do things like this for me. It just sucks since I wanted this done prior to driving cross country again.

Against the law??? Um... every GM car has been running DRLs in the US for several years. On the 2007 XKs you can actually now turn it on or off without switching the country (with latest version of StarScan).

I know, the Feds passed a law years ago that voided all the various state laws that prohibited daytime use of headlights as a "safety issue", which is why GM can run all their cars with DRLs.

As I said, I think the tech was just unwilling to do the job. Oh well, just something for my dealer to do when I get back.

I just wish that DCX had made it a menu option and user selectable instead of needing the dealer to do it.

Well, I went to the dealer here in Denver I bought hte truck from, and 10 minutes after asking and walking the tech through the StarScan process, I have DRLs. I told them what the tech in FTL said and they called BS on it too. Nice just to have them active for the crazy drivers we have out here.

jeep5253:

I think the DRB III you mention is for older vehicles and the Starscan for newer vehicles.

I'm a newbie to this forum and a previous Chrysler Pacifica owner. On that vehicle I was able to have the DRLs switched on by simply having the dealer change the country code in the computer to Canada. Does anyone know if the same is true with the Commander? Thanks!

Yes, that typically works. However I believe there was a recent StarScan update that allows DRLs to be enabled / disabled for US-spec Commanders without changing the country.

I'm a newbie to this forum and a previous Chrysler Pacifica owner. On that vehicle I was able to have the DRLs switched on by simply having the dealer change the country code in the computer to Canada. Does anyone know if the same is true with the Commander? Thanks!

I just looked it up for you. Starscan version 7.03 or newer (current version is 8.01) will allow the enabling of DRLs without changing the country code.

I took my Commander in for the recall letter and asked about turning on the DRL feature.

Dealer said it came up on the computer as something he could change but you have to change country code.

He didnt want to change from Us to Canada because he was concerned of what else might change.

Anyone know anything about this???

I had the DRLs activated on my Commander and they had to change the country code to Canada to do it. It does not affect anything else but be sure they turn it back to USA after enabling the DRLs.

would that not turn off the DTLs?

Don't know what a DTL is but nothing was affected on my vehicle.

No, changing it back and forth won't affect anything. Also, the latest StarScan software revision eliminates having to do this step in the U.S.

sry, that was DRLs

If it's the same as the LX platform if you leave it in "export" mode your foglights will work on high beam too.

Here's an old thread on the DRLs. Plenty of information in it.
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1152&page=10&highlight=daytime+running+lights

Well I printed the forum entries and took them in to the service tech.

He read thru it and said, well we can give it a shot! So he took the Starscan device out and plugged it in and turned them on then off then changed the country code but nothing changed.

So he said he was going to go home and read up on it and contact Chrysler. There was a warning that said once they are enabled, they can never be disabled.....didnt matter if they dont' come on, right?

Well as soon as I started the Jeep and put it in drive, the lights came on. Seems the Jeep has to be in gear for the DRLights to come on.

Put it in park, they go out. And it is the brights that come on. no other lights, just the brights. But they work! So I got to call the dealer tomorrow and let him know..........Thanks for your input everyone..

The Power of The Forum prevails.

As rwmorrisonjr said, the later versions of Starscan allows you to change the DRL setting without switching the country.

If your dealer's unit can't do it then it is seriously out of date (which means he also could not complete the recall correctly too). More than likely it is just they haven't bothered to look to see what can be done now.

Here's an old thread on the DRLs. Plenty of information in it.
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?

Your thread didn't work.....

Is it supposed to be in gear for the DRL's to come on? Now I have to update my signature......

Don't know why the link to the other thread isn't working.

The link is working now.

Well, it's cool. I like them. I looked up DRL on wikipedia and wiki gave a bit of history on the DRL's and how the law changed to allow manufacturers to do add the DRL.

It seems to be a simple procedure and all they have to do is enable the DRL on the starscan and it is done. But I would nt know that up front cause he didnt know the vehicle has to be in gear for them to come on.

Your thread didn't work.....

Is it supposed to be in gear for the DRL's to come on? Now I have to update my signature......

Yes, it's supposed to be in gear for them to come on.

got mine done today w/ the mirrors...he did have to change contry code to do it, then change it back afterwards...heres a vid..sorry it was getting dark and auto lights wanted to come on

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j284/ldc2335/th_DRLS.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j284/ldc2335/?action=view&current=DRLS.flv)

i think my dealer had version 8.03...does that sound right?..i watched him and helped do the whole thing cuz he didnt know how...i helped him based on what i read here..i love this forum..... the guy was cool about it and willing to try so thats cool though unsure if he should do it because it poped up so many warnings...but ive seen the step by step so if anyones got questions on what to tell service dept.

I asked my dealer if they could do that for me and they said it would cost me $44.

Mine wants $75.

bastards...mine did it for free

mine was free too, they were doing the oil change and recall. The mechanic was happy to try it too because he got to work out of the proverbial box....and learned from it. But I printed the info from this thread and took it in when he 1st said it wouldnt work. now.....is the tilt down mirror something that can be enabled or is that part of a package?...but take this with you next time you are in a dealership and let them know the cool 5 STAR dealers do it for free!

Mine also did it for free.

mirrirs can just be enabled...they are easier than the drl's....mirrors are in the same menu(in starscan) as the rain sense wipers, horn beep etc that we can do from inside our cars but for some reason they made it a dealer thing and you gotta use starscan for it, its a simple mouse click..thats it

anyone else notice that when you put on you blinker that the drl for that side turns off....wierd, makes it look like you have a bulb out all the time.. i drove my another car and my wife drove the jeep and i noticed this and also that the drl's are very bight from a small car rear view mirror point of view as well as my hid's but not as bad as i thought..

anyone else notice that when you put on you blinker that the drl for that side turns off....wierd, makes it look like you have a bulb out all the time.. i drove my another car and my wife drove the jeep and i noticed this and also that the drl's are very bight from a small car rear view mirror point of view as well as my hid's but not as bad as i thought..

This by design. It is meant to increase visibility of the blinker so that nobody can complain that the headlight obscured the view of the blinker (which might be their excuse if they ran into you). It doesn't happen once the actual headlights are turned on.

Try using the search feature and you will find this:
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1152&page=3&highlight=daytime+running+lights

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Re: Adding A Daytime Running Light Module?
W/out reading through this whole thread...have any of you noticed that when you turn your blinker on, the same side DRL turns off? I didn't notice it until wife was following me yesterday. I'm not sure what to think of it?
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Re: Adding A Daytime Running Light Module?
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W/out reading through this whole thread...have any of you noticed that when you turn your blinker on, the same side DRL turns off? I didn't notice it until wife was following me yesterday. I'm not sure what to think of it?

This might be a safety feature to make the turn signal more visable.


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Re: Adding A Daytime Running Light Module?
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This might be a safety feature to make the turn signal more visable.

Yep... the first time I noticed this I thought - Great I have a head light out... Then as soon as I made the turn I noticed the light illuminate. - good thing the truck in fornt of me was nice and shiny so I could notice this
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that thread is burried (from april )and this one is alive so i posted it to bring up conversation as to what people think of it and to warn other non search users that this happens before the go get their drl's activated and then are shocked when they discover it..

It is not not "buried". Just do a search. We don't need 10 million threads on the same thing.

It is not not "buried". Just do a search. We don't need 10 million threads on the same thing.

So yell at the guy who made the thread or have an admin cancel it...who cares:confused:

its alittle late in the thread to whine about the search feature

This will set DRLs and fix tire size too.

This will set DRLs and fix tire size too.

What will fix tire size?

What will fix tire size?

The AEV EGR module.

Starscan.

Starscan can be used to enable DRL, it can also be used to change the tire size in the computer to any of the factory available tire sizes. It may nor may not be able to be changed to a tire size the same height as your aftermarket ones.

Starscan can adjust the tire size but it is VERY limited. The tires listed are all nearly the same size. DRLs can be enabled with a 6v steady feed to the low beam circuit.

The AEV EGR module can adjust your tire sizes up to something like a 35" tire. It also allows you to enable the DRLs with a 6v steady feed to the low beam or a 6v steady feed to the turn signals.

Note however, that AEV will not currently support the AEV EGR module being installed on vehicles without the Superlift kit. It probably will work just fine but they just won't say it will for sure.

So if you have 37" tires what can you do? Set it for 35's and be glad you got it that close?

I started this thread, if you dont like it, get off my thread......lol
---10 million threads.......that's a lot of threads......(JK guys & wavedammit)

But....Rubicon..you stated it is a 6v feed to the lower beams. Mine are on the brights.

When I turn on the turn signals, my headlights don't go off and on as described in the statement below.

When I turn on the head lights, the low beams come on and the high beams go off. But when I turn on the high beams, all 4 lights are on.

So from everything I have read on this and related threads, my drl's may not be operating properly.

I am not unhappy with it at this point. Less I catch fire...good thing I have an extinguisher!

So if you have 37" tires what can you do? Set it for 35's and be glad you got it that close?

Actually, I just checked... it allows up to 37" tires. I don't think too many people will be running bigger than that on an XK. :rolleyes:

I started this thread, if you dont like it, get off my thread......lol
---10 million threads.......that's a lot of threads......(JK guys & wavedammit)

But....Rubicon..you stated it is a 6v feed to the lower beams. Mine are on the brights.

When I turn on the turn signals, my headlights don't go off and on as described in the statement below.

When I turn on the head lights, the low beams come on and the high beams go off. But when I turn on the high beams, all 4 lights are on.

So from everything I have read on this and related threads, my drl's may not be operating properly.

I am not unhappy with it at this point. Less I catch fire...good thing I have an extinguisher!

Is yours enabled by doing the switch to CA, enabling the DRLs, and then switching back?

By the way, the DRL features of the EGR module are not officially supported by AEV. They are just an extra bit of code in there. In other words if it doesn't work then you are on your own on figuring it out: http://forum.aev-conversions.com/showthread.php?t=69

On the dealers starscan(?) He could just hit the enable button, and then he enabled Ca, enabled the lights, then changed back from CA. He didnt know it worked because the head lights didnt come on. I didnt know it worked until I put it in drive then the lights came on.

On the dealers starscan(?) He could just hit the enable button, and then he enabled Ca, enabled the lights, then changed back from CA. He didnt know it worked because the head lights didnt come on. I didnt know it worked until I put it in drive then the lights came on.

That could be the reason it doesn't work like some other users. I believe the current version of the StarScan software should allow the dealer to just activate it without switching country codes.

I just received a call from Newark Chrysler Jeep and was informed that this model of Jeep does not have daytime running lights or auto-tilt mirror capability. I explained to them that version 7.03 or newer was needed to do this, and they didn't seem to understand what I was talking about when I said "StarScan".

Any tips??????? Help!?

print this off and take it to your dealer.
My dealer had trouble at first, but thier problem was that the tech did not know you had to put the vehicle in gear before the DRL's come on.

Thanks for the fast reply, I called them back and offered to bring it by at 4pm today, and show them the information.

They have requested me to print these all off and fax them over!!!!

If it is not resolved I will just have to go over after work with the documents.

I hope everyone else hasn't had problems like this!!!

Much thanks again!

Thanks for the fast reply, I called them back and offered to bring it by at 4pm today, and show them the information.

They have requested me to print these all off and fax them over!!!!

If it is not resolved I will just have to go over after work with the documents.

I hope everyone else hasn't had problems like this!!!

Much thanks again!

You should have DRL but you will only have mirror tilt feature if you have the memory seat/mirror option on your XK Sport.

I started this thread, if you dont like it, get off my thread......lol
---10 million threads.......that's a lot of threads......(JK guys & wavedammit)

But....Rubicon..you stated it is a 6v feed to the lower beams. Mine are on the brights.

When I turn on the turn signals, my headlights don't go off and on as described in the statement below.

When I turn on the head lights, the low beams come on and the high beams go off. But when I turn on the high beams, all 4 lights are on.

So from everything I have read on this and related threads, my drl's may not be operating properly.

I am not unhappy with it at this point. Less I catch fire...good thing I have an extinguisher!

- DRL uses high beam at a lower intensity.

- (at least for 06) my DRL turns off when I use my turn signal. It only turns off the light for the side I have the turn signal on - the other side stays lit. The light does not turn back on until the turn signal goes off.

- Hi/Lo Beams: I have SmartBeam so they do this on their own..but I have manually overriden (great when setting up a tent at night :D ) and YES - both the high and low beams are on when you are in high-beam setting.

I think your lights are normal.

Just picked it up from the dealer. The daytime running lights are activated, and I did not have a charge for me providing them the information on how to do it. :p

This is the note from the Sales receipt, funny:
"Customer requests daytime running lights enabled. Read in manual that do not come enabled from factory but are equipped and would like them enabled. This feature is only available on Canadian models as specified in owner's manual. Customer faxed data on how to enable DRL. Contacted Star. Star did not recommend doing this. As per customer's request input country code to Canada to enable DRL. Than reset country code to USA. Once this has been enabled can not be dis-enabled. Lights only come on when vehicle is in gear."

I love the proper use of English and spelling! At least they are on eventhough "Star did not recommend doing this"!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

Way to go ROBOCHICK! Kinda surprising we have to supply the how sometimes isnt it? I guess we expect them to know it all.....which may be unfair....but we do pay them a lot of money....

Hi everyone!

I took my commander( 07 limited with 4.7 ) in for service and told them that I wanted the tilt down mirrors and the daytime running lights enabled. They looked at me like I was crazy. Then I told them to use the star scan to turn them on. They said they would look and see if they could. Tech came back about thirty minutes later and said "we are batting 50%"! He got the tilt down mirrors to work. Said he had not heard of doing either. Then he told me if I could tell him where to find the DRL settings on star scan he would be more than happy to turn them on.


My question is can anyone tell me step by step how this is accomplished?

I have another question. Has anyone had any problems with your automatic headlight not working? Dealer said he could not find any codes! I have cleaned the windshield and headlights.

Thanks for any help.

Check out this thread........

http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1152&page=9&highlight=daytime+running+lights

I didn't know that Auto tilt down mirrors can be enabled, that is cool.

Is your commander 06 or 07?

I didn't know that Auto tilt down mirrors can be enabled, that is cool.

Is your commander 06 or 07?


Mine is an 07. You are required to have memory seats and mirrors for this to work.

Mine is an 07. You are required to have memory seats and mirrors for this to work.

:( No memory seats here :(

Just took my 06 XK Ltd to dealer for service and asked to have the DRL scanned and enabled along with the tilt down mirrors. Got a call back saying the mirrors are done but lights cannot be done because I have automatic headlights. Anyone run into this?

I have been to two dealerships trying to get the Daylight Running Lights and they both act like they have never heard of this.

Just took my 06 XK Ltd to dealer for service and asked to have the DRL scanned and enabled along with the tilt down mirrors. Got a call back saying the mirrors are done but lights cannot be done because I have automatic headlights. Anyone run into this?

I have been to two dealerships trying to get the Daylight Running Lights and they both act like they have never heard of this.
To enable the DRLs they have to change the country code with the Starscan to Canada, enable the DRLs, and then change country back to USA. WARNING: Once enabled they can NOT be disabled.

Thanks, jeep5253.

You're welcome.

when my dealer worked on mine, he tried it several times enableing but the lights wouldnt come on.....until I put it in gear.......so if they are not familiar with enabling the DRL's, they may not know it has to be in gear for them to come on.....

I am planning to install the factory fog lights with the stalk that controls them. I am wondering if this will also give me DRL's? Is it possible to have DRL's on a Commander?

SD Baja posted this a while ago.

Well I finally went in for the 1st service (oil change) to Rancho SD in San Diego and asked to get DRL's and rearview mirrors enabled. 1st off, I was prepared to pay a fee because I don't have the tool. After some hemming and hawing the service guy said there would be a charge for the service. He checked and quoted me $45. I raised my eyebrows and said most dealers do this for free as a courtesy and it only takes 2 minutes and he said sorry but... so I said OK. A bit later he returned and said the Commander was ready but they were unable to activate the DRL's to which I replied "did you change the country code to Canada, set the DRL's then reset to the US?" He looked at me funny then went back out and enabled the DRL's. I told him I should charge him $45 for the knowledge hoping he wasn't a idiot and not bill me. He didn't bite.

So the net result will be a nice letter to the dealer about being cheep cheep cheep and I will be taking 100K miles of service revenue to another dealer. Sounds fair to me I guess. It's not about the money. I even gave him a copy of the info listed below so he would know how to do it. If he had read it he wouldn't of had to expose his lack of knowledge and I'd be done with it, trading a free oil change for the activation.

Anyway..someone below requested a compilation of information from earlier posts. I filtered through it and picked pieces I thought to be pertinent.

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As of 01/22/2007, the most recent version of StarScan allows the following:
DRLs can apparently be enabled on both 2006 and 2007 models. I believe that you must change the vehicle country code to Canada, then enable DRLs, then turn the country code back to US.

The tilt-down mirrors can apparently be enabled on 2006 models but not 2007 models.

Here's the menu in the Dealer Preparation tab of the Starscan.

-Unlock driver door on first press

-Auto door lock/unlock

-Accessory time delay- 0 sec, 45 sec, 5 min, 10 min, 30 min

-Radio clock on/off

-Illuminated entry time- 0 sec, 30 sec, 60 sec, 90 sec

-Country code- ROW, USA, Europe, Canada, England, Japan

-Program tire size-
235/65/17 Wrangler HP
235/65/17 Eagle LS
245/65/17 Wrangler SRA
245/65/17 Wrangler HP
245/65/17 Wrangler AT/R
255/45/20 ZR20 ASP
245/60/18 Wrangler HP AW
245/45/20 ZR20 BSW performance
LT 245/65/17 Wrangler HP
LT 245/65/17 OWL A/T
235/65/17 XL BSW all season
245/65/17 R17 Bsw all season
245/65/17 BSW A/T
235/65/17 SL Wrangler S4

-Enable fog lamp

-Headlamps on with wipers (requires auto headlamp option)

-XK restore vehicle config

-Sound horn on lock

-Program Network config (used to add or remove a module from CAN bus)

-Flash headlamps on lock

-Trailer tow relay outputs

-Add NAV radio

-Enable DRL

-FCM horn chirp duration

-Headlamp time delay

-Reset ECU (radio)

-Program keys or FOBs (WCM)


*These are off a base 06 XK, not sure if an 06 Limited or an 07 would have more.

You'd need a memory module under the seat and the mirrors need to have memory motors to be able to have the tilt down in reverse. The memory stuff is for the mirror to be able to return to the original position. The rain sensor is also used as a light sensor for auto headlights or you may have a sunsensor on the dash.

DRL should be easy, with the Starscan either go to FCM or New Vehicle Preperation. Tilt mirror should be under under customer prefs, this is where you can set things the car cant do on its own, usually because it doesnt have the menu buttons or EVIC software. Some have this built in and you can turn them on and off with the EVIC menu, others dont and need a scanner. There are a lot of things you can enable with the scanner, especially by changing the country code

Update - I just picked up my Commander from the service department. They were able to easily get the DRL and mirror tilt down features enabled - and at no charge

I just got my XK back and the dealership used Starscan to enable the mirror tilt. I believe the menu is Configure, if it is not, then the feature is in the same section in Starscan where you can program EVIC items like auto door lock, auto high beam, rain sensor, auto door unlock on exit

I was able to have my dealer activate the daytime running lights. He said when using the starscan and a notice appears that the vehicle is not certified or equiped to have this function all the service tech needs to do is first change the country code for the vehicle to Canada and then they can be activated. After they are simply change the country code back to USA. Mine or working fine and I believe they are the high beams at a lower power when they are on. They come on as soon as the Commander is put into drive. The mirror turn down feature also works but we are still working on the turn signals flashing 3 times to pass or change lanes.

I just had mine turned on via a laptop plugged into the dash. Took 30 seconds. I also had the option of choosing any combination of any of the lights to use as the running lights. Pretty cool. I chose the yellow blinkers only to be on.
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I am planning to install the factory fog lights with the stalk that controls them. I am wondering if this will also give me DRL's? Is it possible to have DRL's on a Commander?
Yes, it is possible to have DRLs. No, installing fog lights will not give you DRLs.

Got 'em done on mine! The DLRs run through the high beams at a lower intensity.

:orangehat:

I just wished our DRLs weren't a bit funky to do 'one-eye' show when signaling though... but when both are on, it's quite an eye-catcher (try driving in front of another XK w/ DRLs). Do the DRLs shine brighter than most/all other DRLs on other vehicles?

I just wished our DRLs weren't a bit funky to do 'one-eye' show when signaling though... but when both are on, it's quite an eye-catcher (try driving in front of another XK w/ DRLs). Do the DRLs shine brighter than most/all other DRLs on other vehicles?


Funny, but mine don't do the funky one-eye show. I read about that, too, but after I had them activated I observed that both lights stay on with the blinker going.

Sounds good. I will have my fog lights activated at the same time as I do the DRL's so I can just pay one fee for both activations. It's sad that they feel they should charge $45 for the service.

Update: I have talked to some dealers in Houston and I have been quoted $95 and $100 each time. Are these guys off their meds? Is anyone here from Houston, if so, who did you have do the starscan on yours? Also, when I had my VW, there was a program that ran on laptops that you could change settings like this with. Is there something similar for Jeep?

If you activate DRL you cannot turn the feature off, make sure you really want it before you do it.

Sounds good. I will have my fog lights activated at the same time as I do the DRL's so I can just pay one fee for both activations. It's sad that they feel they should charge $45 for the service.

Update: I have talked to some dealers in Houston and I have been quoted $95 and $100 each time. Are these guys off their meds? Is anyone here from Houston, if so, who did you have do the starscan on yours? Also, when I had my VW, there was a program that ran on laptops that you could change settings like this with. Is there something similar for Jeep?
I think most of us here that had our DRLs enabled were not charged at all. It only takes a few minutes.

Will DRL work with any model, base, sport, Limited? What exactly do they do and how do they operate?

Sounds good. I will have my fog lights activated at the same time as I do the DRL's so I can just pay one fee for both activations. It's sad that they feel they should charge $45 for the service.

Update: I have talked to some dealers in Houston and I have been quoted $95 and $100 each time. Are these guys off their meds? Is anyone here from Houston, if so, who did you have do the starscan on yours? Also, when I had my VW, there was a program that ran on laptops that you could change settings like this with. Is there something similar for Jeep?

I had mine done at Archer Southwest, before they had been selected to shutdown thanks to Chrysler HQ. I had my connection w/ the shop manager, and gave him the list on 'how-to' thanks to here. He actually called over a tech on the service bay area, to follow those instructions. It took about say ten minutes max (give or take, as they were still confused about switching country code and all.

I'd like to know what was done to keep BOTH lights on, even w/ the signal lights blinking. Can anyone help?

I actually went to Allen Samuels Dodge (http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9605#) and was able to get my key programmed and have the DRL's enabled for $46+tax. I told the tech when he pulled my car back that I would like the DRLs enabled and explained the process to him, he did it with no problem.

Afterwards, I talked to Jose Padilla, the service advisor, and he told me to go ahead and post on here that the $46 price is good for setting up options in the computer and programming keys. If you go, just ask for Jose and you can tell him you read about it online, he will work with you.

I have a 2009 Sport and I have not had any issues with BOTH lights remaining on with the blinkers on.

I do have a question - does the new stalk for the fog lights also give the option of auto headlights?

I do have a question - does the new stalk for the fog lights also give the option of auto headlights?
What do you mean by "auto headlights"?

Headlights that come on automatically when it gets dark and turn off when it gets light. I had them on my '01 GMC Sierra and really miss them.

Headlights that come on automatically when it gets dark and turn off when it gets light. I had them on my '01 GMC Sierra and really miss them.
The reason I asked him what he meant is because he might be referring to the Auto-Dimming feature.

I had mine activated over a year ago, and pretty much laid out on the table that they would do it for free as I was providing them the information via here and I could easily take all my business elsewhere. They reluctantly did it and I had to verify with the service manager that I understood the implications that they cannot be turned off. I don't understand why I would want them off?

However, I recently went to the DE DMV for a VIN check, and the usual VIN check lane was closed which forced me to the painful long line for the inspection lane with the old junk cars. (DE does not inspect new vehicles until year 6). I was in a HUGE shouting match with the inspectors as they repeatedly yelled at me to turn my headlights off, the one inspector even had the gull to stick his arm in my truck and try to play with my light switch as if I didn't know how to turn my headlights off. They had no clue what DRL's were, and I fear going for my inspection in a few years....

Sounds like you have some antiquated inspectors who need to be "upgraded" to people intouch with the 90s

However, I recently went to the DE DMV for a VIN check, and the usual VIN check lane was closed which forced me to the painful long line for the inspection lane with the old junk cars. (DE does not inspect new vehicles until year 6). I was in a HUGE shouting match with the inspectors as they repeatedly yelled at me to turn my headlights off, the one inspector even had the gull to stick his arm in my truck and try to play with my light switch as if I didn't know how to turn my headlights off. They had no clue what DRL's were, and I fear going for my inspection in a few years....
Next time they tell you to turn them off turn your XK off. Then when they ask you why you turned it off tell them because they asked you to turn the DRLs off and that is the only way to turn them off.

The reason I asked him what he meant is because he might be referring to the Auto-Dimming feature.

They do that? cool!

Can someone point me to a pic of the DRL's on?

Next time they tell you to turn them off turn your XK off. Then when they ask you why you turned it off tell them because they asked you to turn the DRLs off and that is the only way to turn them off.


My thoughts exactly when I go for an inspection in 3 or so years. You are supposed to leave the vehicle in gear (I guess it is a brake test if they can hold the vehicle that long during inspections and keeps vin checks moving faster). They could not get it through their heads that I needed to put it in park to turn the DRL's off.

What do you mean by "auto headlights"?

I mean, the headlights come on automatically when it gets dark. I know there would have to be some sort of sensor added, but I am wondering if it is an option.

I mean, the headlights come on automatically when it gets dark. I know there would have to be some sort of sensor added, but I am wondering if it is an option.
I think it would be more $$ and trouble than it is worth. But anything is doable, I guess. In addition to the sensor the computer would have to be programmed, if it is possible to program it for that feature. You would also need a new steering column stalk with the auto setting on it. Do you have a round "button" sticking up out of the middle of the dash near the windshield between the left and right defroster vents ?

Do you have a round "button" sticking up out of the middle of the dash near the windshield between the left and right defroster vents ?
I do and I don't have auto headlights.

I do and I don't have auto headlights.

The button you see is a plug.
The headlamp light sensor does go in that position but it almost appears like a tinted/transparent type plug.
I don't have auto lamps either but I do have the plug in that position.
My Magnum does have the auto on and uses the same diameter sensor that we are referring to.

Rob

The button you see is a plug.
The headlamp light sensor does go in that position but it almost appears like a tinted/transparent type plug.
I don't have auto lamps either but I do have the plug in that position.
My Magnum does have the auto on and uses the same diameter sensor that we are referring to.

Rob
Thanks for that info, Robby. I wasn't sure about that.

I do have the button in my dash.

I am planning to do the fog lights, which will come with the stalk that will have the settings, so I was thinking I could kill two mods with one programming cost.

Maybe this is normal or maybe its not but last night I switched my lights to Auto mode (They havent come on in Auto mode and Im not sure why) I then turned on the running lights and they came on which gave me daytime running lights without any mods or without having my headlights on. The corner lights do come on with the running lights as well.

Maybe this is normal or maybe its not but last night I switched my lights to Auto mode (They havent come on in Auto mode and Im not sure why) I then turned on the running lights and they came on which gave me daytime running lights without any mods or without having my headlights on. The corner lights do come on with the running lights as well.

Would you please clarify what you mean? I'm not too sure. I have always had my lights set to Auto, and they always worked correctly both before and after having DRLs activated. Please be specific.

To clarify.

My fog lights can be turned on when my (Orange signal lights or turning signal lights) are turned on without the headlights being on. So my headlights are not on yet my fog lights are on as long as the corner turn signal lights are turned on. Maybe Im confused as to what daytime running lights are but this is what I thought they were.

Thanks

No, that is not daytime running lights. The DRLs have to be turned on by the dealer using the Starscan device. The DRLs use the headlights not the fog lights.

Ok sorry for the confusion. I dont know what daytime running lights are then, any pic's?

thx

Ok sorry for the confusion. I dont know what daytime running lights are then, any pic's?
thx
They are just the low beams that will come on automatically and stay on while you are driving.

They are just the low beams that will come on automatically and stay on while you are driving.

If I remember correctly, someone has posted that you can select which lights to use for DRL in the set up program. You can choose between high, low and fog. I did not do it so I do not know this as a fact.

If I remember correctly, someone has posted that you can select which lights to use for DRL in the set up program. You can choose between high, low and fog. I did not do it so I do not know this as a fact.
Maybe. I was not offered a choice. But what he is describing is not running lights. Everybody with the factory fogs can turn them on when the parking lights are on.

Not sure on all the years, but, my '08... The DRLs are the highbeams at 50% power. Can't be turned off except by turning the engine off or putting the trans in Park. I had to help the dealer turn mine on... The scanner did not even list the DRL until we changed the origin to CAN. Once we had it set to Canada, DRL showed up in the menu. Menu selection was "Activate", nothing else. No "Deactivate", no selection for which lights were to be used as DRLs.

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If I remember correctly, someone has posted that you can select which lights to use for DRL in the set up program. You can choose between high, low and fog. I did not do it so I do not know this as a fact.


Well, the history of DRLs is such... Our DRLs as are set through the dealer run through the high beams at a reduced intensity. The dealer uses his Starscan programmer to activate them.

Now, there are aftermarket companies/programmers that will let you select which lights will be used as DRLs. I believe that AEV is one of them. Evidently, they put more thought into their programmer than Chrysler. :mofo:

I'll just say, I am happy with the DRLs through the high beams. It doesn't bother me at all.

:orangehat:


EDIT: I will add just for completeness that this issue of changing the country code to Canada to activate the DRLs and then back to USA was an issue of the firmware the dealership would have had installed on their Starscan. Newer firmware (which costs the dealer $$$) does not require the programmer to first change the country code to activate the DRLs. They may be activated directly.

Well, the history of DRLs is such... Our DRLs as are set through the dealer run through the high beams at a reduced intensity. The dealer uses his Starscan programmer to activate them.

Mine was done by the dealer using the Starscan but my DRLs are the low beams.

Mine was done by the dealer using the Starscan but my DRLs are the low beams.


Wow, now that's interesting and the first time I've heard of dealer activated DRLs running through low beams.

A question to our Canadian members who have DRLs activated by default from the factory... Which lights are used for your DRLs, low or high beams?

:orangehat:

Mine was done by the dealer using the Starscan but my DRLs are the low beams.

I was at the dealer today and they could not find the menu to activate the low beam DRL's - they could activate the low power high beams. They said if you can tell us how to do it we will try to turn on the low beams.

Can anyone give me a pretty detailed description of how they will find the menu of the drl's to enable the low beam drl's?

Thank you in advance.

I was at the dealer today and they could not find the menu to activate the low beam DRL's - they could activate the low power high beams. They said if you can tell us how to do it we will try to turn on the low beams.

Can anyone give me a pretty detailed description of how they will find the menu of the drl's to enable the low beam drl's?

Thank you in advance.
Sorry, I have no idea how it was done.

Wow, now that's interesting and the first time I've heard of dealer activated DRLs running through low beams.

A question to our Canadian members who have DRLs activated by default from the factory... Which lights are used for your DRLs, low or high beams?

:orangehat:

Canadian DRLs use high beams by default. I've never seen a menu under U.S. or CDN vehicles for the use of low beams, it's possible the vehicle is using a different country for the configuration like Mexico, etc. The different countries have options for park lights or fog lights as DRLs.

I had mine activated today. I tried to have the three quick turn signal activated but they could not find it.

I had mine activated today. I tried to have the three quick turn signal activated but they could not find it.

Did they do your high beams on low intensity or did they activate your low beams?

Thanks

I had mine activated today. I tried to have the three quick turn signal activated but they could not find it.


Where'd you get it done and what did they charge you? Roseville Jeep wants to steal $120 of my hard-earned wages to program my tire size and the DRLs in... I told them, ah, no.

They are the high beams on a lower intensity. I got it done at St. Clair Chrysler Jeep Dodge. They were flashing the codes and updating the tranny computer and they did it then. The tranny computer was done under warranty. They didn't charge me for the DRL activation. I can't guarantee they won't charge you though. I've been dealing with them for over 15 years and bought or leased 5 vehicles with them over that time. They also do all the service on my XK and my Mom's Ram 2500 also.

Just a reminder for those considering this mod, once you do it it cannot be undone.

I had my DRL activated today. $25 charge. It is the high beam at low intensity.