Basic Citizen Band (cb) Radio Discussion

Has anyone installed or plan on installing a CB in his or her Commander? I plan on doing this before driving up North for Christmas.

I am awaiting delivery of my Commander but yes, when it comes I will install a CB. Always have had one and it comes in very handy, not only offroading but in highway travel. john

I installed a Cobra unit under the passenger seat. It is an all in one unit where the mike has all controls. When not in use, it is stored under the seat.
http://www.cobra.com/index.php?page=shop/flypage&product_id=5&id=1

I'm thinking about putting a CB radio in. Is it pretty straightforward? How do I wire it to a power source or, better yet, what is the power source? I want an antenna that I can put on and take off the roof (magnetic?). Just starting my research, any info appreciated.

Unless CB's have changed over the years you can simply tie into any switched power source such as you aux power outlet and a ground wire to the frame. Magnetic antennas are real common but you have to deal with the cord issue and how you are going to get it into the vehicle. There is nothing special to the installation of a CB.

The most important thing as far as power goes is a clean power and ground for the CB unit. I run a Painless Cirkit Boss auxillary fuse block to power the CB in my XJ. For antenna's look at Firestik's NGP (No Ground Plane) antenna kits. Also be sure to test your SWR before using the unit.

What are you looking to run a CB for? Planning to go off-roading? You won't find much CB traffic these days except on long haul trucking routes like I-40, I-81 etc. I run mine in my XJ for off-roading as some folks still run them instead of FMRS/GMRS radios. The FMRS/GMRS radios that are out now have real good range... up to 14 miles.

Yep, for off-roading. Sounds like you'd recommend an FRMS radio instead?

Yep, for off-roading. Sounds like you'd recommend an FRMS radio instead?

Depends on what the folks you are off-roading use. If they are using a CB then get one, but if they have nothing pick up a set of FMRS/GMRS radios.

I have a Rino 530 GPS & FMRS/GMRS radio combo unit. I also have a cheapo Cobra FRMS/GRMS radio I let people I off road with borrow. It doesn't have as long a range as the 530.

Where do you have your CB Radio installed? What type of antenna do you have and where do you have it installed?

you could put in the center console or in the glove box.

the firestick 3' antennas are great. i had one with a cobra cb radio. i could talk for about 5 miles.

the best place to mount the antenna would be on the roof, or on the driverside next to the hood.

I would suggest the Firestik antenna also. I would suggest the Firestik No Ground Plane (NGP) kit for best performance.

This might be a good idea.
http://4xguard.com/Images/Ant.mount.2.10.JPG
http://4xguard.com/Images/Ant.mount.1.10.JPG
http://4xguard.com/Products/antenna.html

This might be a good idea.


Nice, from the picture... the 4xGuard CB mount is one of the nicest I have seen for any vehicle, aside from maybe the Kilby CB mount for the Wranglers.

Uber, that's actually what I was really looking for in terms of a CB mount. Do you have a CB antenna mounted that way? I had a Teraflex mount that was mounted via the bolts of a rear brake light on my old LJ.

Any ideas on mounting the radio inside the XK? I'm thinking about cutting out the little cubby at the bottom of the center stack and placing it in there, then running an external speaker somewhere.

You could just get you an All-in-Handset Mobile CB. This will give you more options for mounting. I have a friend that has one and loves it because it takes less space. Here's an example of one.

http://www.cbcity.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=204&cart=834049&itemid=1283

You could just get you an All-in-Handset Mobile CB. This will give you more options for mounting. I have a friend that has one and loves it because it takes less space. Here's an example of one.



I have that one in the Cherokee... quality is a bit iffy. Mine stops putting out audio whenever it is more than 80F inside the vehicle. The rest of the functionality works, but kind of worthless if you can't hear what they are saying. :-p The concept is great, just which they had made it a better quality.

I do not have a CB, but I was thinking about getting one. This was the mount I looked at for my. I need help picking out a good CB.

Right now I have a RadioShack CB that works fine. I don't have it mounted and it slides around on the dash, hence why I asked. After my last trip up the mountain, I've decided I'm done with the magnet mounts, it fell off about a dozen times. If we weren't concerned about getting the Commander in our garage, and we were ready for a luggage rack, I would probably attach the antenna to the luggage rack.

Anyone have one mounted that could post up some pics? Wife bought me a CB for Christmas, and I'm holding off installing it in the ZJ, as I'd like to just install in the XK when we get that.

Thanks.

Anyone have one mounted that could post up some pics? Wife bought me a CB for Christmas, and I'm holding off installing it in the ZJ, as I'd like to just install in the XK when we get that.

Thanks.

What kind of CB is it?

It's sitting downstairs on the coffee table... 1) I'm too lazy to go look at it, and 2) I forget. Ha. I believe she said she got it from Radio Shack.

What do you guys think of this CB?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005N5WU/sr=1-4/qid=1199393683/ref=pd_cp_e_2_img?ie=UTF8&qid=1199393683&sr=1-4&pf_rd_p=250314601&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00004VXNY&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0G48EN6EZEZY8E5J5DQ6

I had the Cobra 75WXST in my Xterra for a couple of years. It worked great. All of the electronics are in the handset, so you don't have to mount a box. You just mount a little junction box under the seat and you can transfer the handset to other cars (you just have to have multiple junction boxes).
http://cobra.com/images/productImages/CBRadios/75WXST.jpg

http://cobra.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=314&category_ID=30

i like that. i'll have to get one like that!

I had the Cobra 75WXST in my Xterra for a couple of years. It worked great. All of the electronics are in the handset, so you don't have to mount a box. You just mount a little junction box under the seat and you can transfer the handset to other cars (you just have to have multiple junction boxes).
http://cobra.com/images/productImages/CBRadios/75WXST.jpg

http://cobra.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=314&category_ID=30

That's exactly what I plan on getting when I decide to pick one up.

Can't go wrong with Cobra!

I was searching this just last week, Considering the Cobra CB with all the controls in the hand unit, Anyone want to chime in with thier CB recomendations?

http://www.midlandradio.com/comersus/store/catalog/1001Z%20large.jpg

That's the one my wife got me for Christmas. Haven't installed it yet, so I can't vouch for it's effectiveness. But it's small, compact, and should get the job done for what I need/want it for (trail use).

The CB was mounted inside the cubby hole to the left of the steering wheel. A dremel cuts the back of the cubby hole very nicely.

How about a pic?

I'll see what I can do to take pictures tomorrow. PM me Monday if I don't get around to it to remind me.

Sorry for the delay, but pretty hectic lately and haven't had time to post....
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562536433iQzoWI?vhost=good-times

Also, I wasn't able to comment on the pictures, if you have questions, and I'm slow to respond, PM me.

Ah, that looks great. I have my pedal adjustment switches there (I believe this is a new location for 08's). So I don't know if my cubby hole would be big enough. I'll have to check it out. That's a great location for it, though. I was looking at the cubby the other day, and really started to think about what I could use it for... and really came up with nothing. Ha.

I bought the Cobra 75WX ST yesterday from a CB dealer in Mannassas, VA. For those of you who don't want to splice into your wires or put screws in the dash, I had the dealer put a cigarette lighter adapter at the end. The only time I'll be using it is when offroading so that is why I went with this setup.

I bought the Cobra 75WX ST yesterday from a CB dealer in Mannassas, VA. For those of you who don't want to splice into your wires or put screws in the dash, I had the dealer put a cigarette lighter adapter at the end. The only time I'll be using it is when offroading so that is why I went with this setup.


can we get some pics?

I have that one in the Cherokee... quality is a bit iffy. Mine stops putting out audio whenever it is more than 80F inside the vehicle. The rest of the functionality works, but kind of worthless if you can't hear what they are saying. :-p The concept is great, just which they had made it a better quality.

Ok, I would have to pass on it after reading Rubicon's comments.......see post 8 of this thread.

Ok, I would have to pass on it after reading Rubicon's comments.......see post 8 of this thread.
I've read online where other folks loved it. Just like our commanders, every now and then you get a lemon.

can we get some pics?

I'll try to take some today.

I saw something a few months back on cb radio installation.....
someone had one in the center console...so...where is your radio installed??

Also, what brand, model radio and antenna?

I just got me a cobra 29 WX NW ST but want to get a nice antenna, thinking of going with Wilson

I've got the Cobra 75WXST with the K30 magnet mount antenna. I had a cigarette lighter adapter installed on the CB so it's not permanent mounted. Only use it when needed.

I'll be doing the same thing Blake (Crz) did, with getting the cigarette lighter adapter wired up so nothing's permanent.

I have a simple handheld one with the magnetic antenna and cig power adapter. It works quite well. Picked it up at Radio Shack a number of years ago.

I also have the Cobra 75 WX St with a magnet antenia.

The controls for this one are all in the handset so you can mount the unit behind the dash or under a seat and just connect the handset when you want to use it.

In your opinion, what is the best way to ground the CB? right now I have mine on the cig lighter (red and black) would it be better if I run the red to the fuse box and hook the black to the chasis? Also, should I run a ground for the antenna as well?

In your opinion, what is the best way to ground the CB? right now I have mine on the cig lighter (red and black) would it be better if I run the red to the fuse box and hook the black to the chasis? Also, should I run a ground for the antenna as well?

Have you tuned your antenna to the radio? You need an SWR meter or take it to a CB shop and they can do it. If you do a good tune and have low readings on the SWR meter, then I would say that you are good the way you currently have it.

:confused: So I got me a new antenna for my CB radio today, I got the Wilson 5000 magnetic mount, that comes with the 62” whip, but needless to say that it is a little bit too big to have there all the time, plus I can’t park in my building with it on the roof, so I got me the short load adapter hoping that would have work, but that would have been too easy, it didn’t fit, so I had to come up with a way of been able to make it work, I know that the antenna is suppose to be on the middle of the roof, and on a place where the mount seats flat, but like I said before, it didn’t work out for me, so here is the best thing I was able to come up with my SWR is pretty good, 1.2:1 or so all away across, I haven’t been able to drive on the highway to see what kind of reception I’m getting, That will have to wait until Monday, I had to bend the whip about ½ inch to make the 90 degrees turn, and I have a feeling that having the mount in that place plus that bend may not be that good, so, what do you guys think???:confused:

Now, I like the way it looks there...:D But I hope it works good too... :confused:

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I think you would have been better off getting a 3" antenna and keeping it mounted on the roof. The way it is right now, your vehicle is blocking it from transmitting to the front except for the 3 feet that's above the roof so you will get probably get a further transmit in the rear than in the front. Not sure about the bend you made, but I guess you're about to find out if it works.

3" antenna? the mount is too powerful for that, I try that already, the shortest I can use is the short load from wilson and that is 39", center load, if I go any shorter that that, I can never get the SWR where they need to be, I will look into the fiberglass antennas to see if I can get it to gwork with one of them, that way I could use a shorter antenna for a every day use, and the long one for highways or something like that...

I meant 3' not 3". My bust. Pushed the shift key by accident. I don't think they make a 3" antenna anyway.

BTW - What's a fiver glass antenna? (J/K) LOL

I tried the 39" and it was too long too, so, here a new set up I'm trying out, I like the look on the back, but that is not the best location, plus it seem like it was too easy for someone to mess with it, steal it, or just bump in to it and scratch the paint. So this seems like a better idea, still, it has a bend on it, but less than before, and at least it fits in my parking spot, and I can use the 62" whip,I would like to have it a little closer to the back, I may get a 4 magnet mount to see if it fits.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/ROMULO_RIERA/wilson%20antenna/IMG_0024.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/ROMULO_RIERA/wilson%20antenna/IMG_0025.jpg

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Did you check the SWR? Does it still look good? The swept back look is cool.

I did, I will have to bend it back up a little more, in order to get it right where I want it, but right now is about 1.2 : 1 but I can get it to be 1.1 : 1

I would like to have it a little closer to the back, I may get a 4 magnet mount to see if it fits.



Why couldn't you just put the antenna more toward the back like you want it since it is a magnet mount. I always mount mine between the cross bars which is pretty much the center of the vehicle. The center of the vehicle is the best place to mount according to online sources.

Because I can’t fit the mount in between the ridges on the roof, this mount is BIG!!! So I have to put it on front, or all away back, but in the back is too close to the edge, so that is way I want to try the 4 magnet mount to see if I can get it around the ridges… I can move it back, but it would not seat flat and that means that the ground would be very bad…

i would have used a fiberglass antenna.

i can't remember what brand i had on my toyota. it was only 1.5' tall. and i had a small cobra digital CB. i could easily get 1-2 miles on it. i think i had a firestick antenna on it.

with one of those shorter antenna's you could mount your antenna next to your radio antenna.

I am buying a CB radio and I am a complete noob about this stuff. If you guys could help me out here, that would be great. I think I am like the Cobra 75WXST. I do not know what else I need and what I should get. I have read stuff about antennas, antenna tuners, antenna mounts and I still don't know what to buy.

1 - What antenna should I buy?

2 - Where is the best price?

3 - Tell about this antenna tuner thing and where to get one? (How to use it would be helpful) :)

I do have the Cobra 29 WX NW ST Classic, for the antenna I have a Wilson 5000, The antenna was about $100, it comes with a 69' whip, and I also got a 39' center loaded whip for an extra $20. The antenna tuner you are talking about I'm guessing is the SWR meter, that is what you need to use for tune your antenna to your radio, you can get one at Radio Shack for $50, or you can go to any CB radio shop and let them tune your antenna for about $15, the mount on my antenna is a magnetic, and it works very well, I've been on the trais with it, and never lost it, as far as the antenna goes, you need to know how good you want it to be? how much are you going to use it? do you want to drill holes on your XK? Also, I added a external speaker, since I mounted it on the back.

Here is a link that may help CLICK HERE (http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm) Here is another CLICK HERE (http://www.cbradiotalk.com/index.php?sid=b676103c0adde0e67e4cf82ba53d9555)

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/ROMULO_RIERA/wilson%20antenna/IMG_0025.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/ROMULO_RIERA/DSC03742.jpg

I just found this kit. (http://www.firestik.com/CatalogFrame.htm) Tell me what you think.

If you don't mind drilling on you XK, and you think that you would like it, the mount seems ok, now, don't go cheap on the wire, that is one of the reason I got the Wilson 5000, because it has better wire, also, I can remove the antenna and leave the mount, or just remove the mount since it is magnetic, from what I got from reading on the link I sent you, the best thing you need is good antenna, wire, and ground, if you got those, then is just a mater of you chosing the set up that works for you.

I agree with Romeo, dont skimp on wire. Magnetic mounts are the way it go if you dont think you will want or need it on a regular basis. Expecially with the type of cb you are talking about. The SWR meter is simple enough, the instruction are there and it is pretty quick.

Pilot or Fly J fuel stops usually carry a lot of CB's and accessories, including antenna's at a reasonalble price. Like the Firestick you pointed out.

Radio Shack and The Anderson's also carry some decent stuff.

If you want cheap, Walmart and Meijer's.

When we went to Fla a couple weeks ago, there was little traffic on the radio except at night. But it was handy when we came up on stopped traffic...found out how far up it was and wait time....

An antenna mounted in the center on the roof will give you the maximum range. Antenna's are directional in nature, so anything blocking the antenna reduces it's ability. But depending on where you mount it, may not make a big difference.

One of the CB forums said you antenna cable should be 18 ft or 3ft increments, another says the cable should be long enough to go from your cb to the antenna.....Romeo had a link in one of his posts....

rwmorrison had an antenna that mounted on the lip of the hood in a recent post. I will see if I can find it..........

start with a magnetic mount and go from there.....no holes required for that!

Try this link: http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5576 rwmorrisons commander, you can see the antenna in the first post. Then toward the end, he says it is a maxrad antenna with a lip mount.

I too have the Cobra 75 WXST and think it is great since you can pull the mic and leave no trace that you even have a CB, I want the Firestik but am waiting for someone to come up with a rear hatch mount shown in the other threads. Adjusting the CB is as stated a simple process using a SWR meter, you simply loosen the antenna in it's mount (allen screw) and raise or lower it until the needle says stop.

Check these threads:
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5588
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4978&highlight=radio
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4978&highlight=radio
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4185&highlight=radio
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3849&highlight=radio
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3153&highlight=radio
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2202&highlight=radio
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5203

I will look into merging some of these when I have more time.

I just found this cool install guide for H2 (http://www.eeaston.com/hummer-projects/cb-install), but it could work with our JCs.

I really like the antenna mount!

Just thought I would share the install of the Midland 1001Z in a 2006 Commander.

http://63.135.96.168/ftp/temp/jeep/DSCF8905a.jpg
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That's the same thing I did with my Uniden Pro 520XL, also have my roof light switch next to it.

Its a great place for a CB...

Looks good Tom, Still have not mounted my CB but I will get to it someday.

looks like it is a long radio! Are you happy with the performance of the radio?

I have mine in the same place, but as a righty, it is tough messing around with the mic and cable. What did you do with yours??

Found this info:
Basic Rules:


Top loaded (helical wire-wounds) antennas perform better than center loaded antennas, center loaded antennas perform better than base loaded antennas.

Taller antennas perform better than shorter antennas.

Antennas mounted higher perform better than if mounted lower.

Single antennas perform better when mounted as close to center as possible on metal vehicles.

Base loaded antennas cannot be co-phased with satisfactory results.

Fiberglass and aluminum vehicles, or those with little available ground plane, need co-phased or "no ground plane" antennas systems.

The physical length of the antenna should be determined by the likelihood of repetitive hitting of overhead objects and/or the type and strength of the antenna mount itself.

At least two-thirds of the antenna should be above a vehicles roof line for optimum performance.

If the antenna/mount combination is available in a kit form, you will normally save money by purchasing it as a kit.

The bandwidth of the antenna should always meet or exceed the needs of a 40 channel CB.

this was on a link from Romeo's post

Just checked this thread... since I've worked comms issues for many years. Most info here is accurate, cept'n the guy that has a 69 foot antenna... Wow must have a balloon to pull it up, or its a typo...hehehe.

The center of the roof is going to give the best range, just think of the huge flat metal ground plane bouncing signal out equally in all directions.

KKKKFL

For you serious off-roaders............what are ya'll using for CB radios?

Where and how did you mount it?

What would you do again?

What would you do differently?

FOr those without CB's, are you considering one now?

Which one and whats your plan to mount?

R/T this might help http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5905

i did search - but I guess I need to go back to search school :stickpoke:

i did search - but I guess I need to go back to search school :stickpoke:

I have a Cobra 29 night watch CB radio, with Wilson 5000 Antenna with a magnetic mount, I also added a external speaker that I keep under the head rest.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/ROMULO_RIERA/DSC03763.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/ROMULO_RIERA/DSC03742.jpg

Also, here are 2 sites that have lots of info on CBs CLICK HERE (http://www.cbradiotalk.com/index.php?sid=b676103c0adde0e67e4cf82ba53d9555) and CLICK HERE (http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm)

way cool...........

I think out of all the ones I've seen (with no regard to performance) I think I like the fit and finish of what Phunky did.........small, compact, neat, and clean.

While maybe I would have put it somewhere else (unit and whip) I just like the idea that it looks as if it was ment to do with it what he did with it.

Uniden 510

http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5817

Still using the window mount antenna...range limited to about line-of-site.

my newest toy:


COBRA HH38WXST 40 CHANNEL HANDHELD CB RADIO

My other one:


My old CB:



Dont have a pic of my new one yet, but it is in the same place..

From :http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/Ant_paint.htm (http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs/Ant_paint.htm)

I was thinking of doing this......

PAINTING FIRESTIK ANTENNAS

Compliments of Firestik ® Antenna Company Technical Support Team
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Copyright © 1996 Firestik ® Antenna Company

On occasion we are ask if it is okay to paint one of our antennas to match the color of the vehicle. The answer is, "Yes … you can!"


To achieve the best results there are a few things you can do,
Start out with a white antenna. It will have little or no effect on the base color of the paint.

Clean the antenna with paint thinner or denatured alcohol and let dry before applying paint

Use a lead free paint. Choose those that are compatible with plastics. We recommend plasti-kote ultra vinyl color paint or compatible.

Most car dealerships have paints made for painting plastic that also match the vehicle color.
We had the occassion to test the new Krylon ® Fussion for Plastic ® paint and the end product was excellant. And, pre-cleaning to remove oils from the plastic is absolutely necessay. We have seen the paint at Home Depot and Lowes.
Adding paint could add slightly to the electrical length of the antenna due to change in capacitance. Therefore, either recheck the SWR after a previously tuned antenna has been painted, or wait and tune it after the paint job is finished.

This sucker makes noise!

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103339

Will post install pic later.
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I installed a CB I had laying around under the driver's dash with a plug for the outlet just next to that spot for easy removal. When it's on, I'm picking up quite a bit of ignition noise that gets worse with acceleration.

How to fix...? :icon_confused:

Check your CB and antenna ground to start with. Which side do you use on the outlet? The passenger side is switched, the other is not.

Try one of these....

Snap Choke Core (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2996360)


I installed a CB I had laying around under the driver's dash with a plug for the outlet just next to that spot for easy removal. When it's on, I'm picking up quite a bit of ignition noise that gets worse with acceleration.

How to fix...? :icon_confused:

Check your CB and antenna ground to start with. Which side do you use on the outlet? The passenger side is switched, the other is not.

Try one of these....

Snap Choke Core (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2996360)


I've tried both sides with the same results.

BTW, I thought the driver's side was switched and the other wasn't.

The normal fix for ignition noise is to use a filter, (capacitor). You used to be able to get them at Rado Shack. It goes in series with the red or Positive power lead. It filters the DC by eliminating the transient spikes caused by ignition. There are also plug wires that will sheild RF noise but the easier fix is a filter.

You can also eliminate the noise by running straight off the battery.

You can also eliminate the noise by running straight off the battery.

True, but I'm trying to keep this simple and not run wires all over the place. I guess I'll see if I can find a filter at Radio Shack.

Thanks for the tip on the snap choke core, Cico. My CB is now in with 2 of those thingies on the power cable and 2 on the antenna cable.

Also of interest was that some kind of noise canceling button labeled "NB" on my CB that also helps. With the gain tuned down a tad and the squelch up, it all works pretty well. Now I wonder what the "ANL" button does...

I guess the one thing I should do is tune it with an SWR meter.

NB= Noise Blanking (for ignition noise)
ANL= Automatic Noise Limiter (for background noise)

You might find that putting a choke on your antenna cable will give you a really high SWR. Chokes are usually for power cables.

Definitely need to tune it with an SWR meter. If not, you could mess up your CB.

Definitely need to tune it with an SWR meter. If not, you could mess up your CB.

How does it mess up the CB? I thought the point of tuning with an SWR meter was to make sure you're getting maximum range.

How does it mess up the CB? I thought the point of tuning with an SWR meter was to make sure you're getting maximum range.

CB Antenna Tuning Guide

So you’ve wrestled your CB radio into the dashboard and you’ve got your antenna mounted on a space with decent ground plane. Everything is connected and ready to go, right? Wrong. It’s vital that you tune your antenna before using your new CB radio. If you’re not familiar with the importance of the concept behind SWR or the necessity of adjusting it, let us give you fair warning: improper tuning of your antenna has the potential to cause much worse than a weak broadcast signal – it can end the life of your radio before you get a chance to enjoy it.

The good news is that this article will walk you through the process of properly tuning your antenna (aka adjusting the SWR). It’s really not a terribly difficult process, as long as you can follow directions and are patient enough for a little trial-and-error. Assuming that everything else in your system is properly installed, the only additional equipment necessary is a short length of coaxial cable (known as a jumper lead), an SWR meter, and something on which to record your readings.

From this site: http://www.rightchannelradios.com/pages/cb-antenna-tuning-guide-pv-c0-61.html

Just wondering where ya'll have installed your CD radios. Spent the better part of today looking for a place to stick mine, but had no luck. I've got an older CB - about 7 inches wide, 9 inches deep and 2 inches high. There's just no place for it to fit easily. Anyone have any ideas where I might stick it?

I have a small radio shack CB Radio and it fits perfectly between the passenger seat and the center consel. The seat actually holds it in place and it doesnt move any where. I just have not had time to install it anywhere else.

I have a Midland 1001z mounted inside the bin in the dash on the drivers side. I just needed to slice off the back of the bin and make a slit on each of the sides so it can expand.

You will probably be better off getting a new smaller form factor radio that will fit better. They're cheap these days.

This is how I installed my cb. The following post 125 shows more.

Hey Chico

What are the buttons in the pictures in that post?

There's one switch right under the CB and two more on the center console. Are they related to the CB? Or something else?

This is how I installed my cb. The following post 125 shows more.

I have the same CB as you. I love it, I works perfect for off road trips!

well, the button under the dash is the original one i placed for my driving lights. I used one of the install guides from mopar and placed the switch where they recommended it. I kept bumping with my knee and turning it on. So i moved it to the side. The other 2 buttons.....one is now the driving lights and the other switches between my front and rear view cameras.

Hey Chico

What are the buttons in the pictures in that post?

There's one switch right under the CB and two more on the center console. Are they related to the CB? Or something else?

I like both Cico and 07JEEPXK's ideas, seeing how the wife likes to inspect everything I do to the Jeep, I don't know if she'd go for me cutting the backside of the driverside bin, course if I did it while she was at work...:rofl:

Like "Chico", ;) I mean Cico7, I have mounted on the drivers side as well. I also mounted the antenna in the drivers front fender.

What do you mean "Chico".....His name is "Psycho" and I also mounted my CB in the same bin left of the dash. Good place for it.

I just installed my cb today and am using the cellular style antenna from Radio shack that is attached to the rear glass. After spending 3 hrs. working on it, I fired up the Jeep, turned on the radio to find out that with the squelch turned down, the engine noise is ridiculous!! My power source is from slot #9 which is the rear power outlet, and am also running two grounds, 1 to under the dash on the cross member thing on the driverside, and another from the side of the cb to under the passenger side dash...been researching and found out that the noise filters are a waste of money, where are you guys getting your power source from??:headbang:

I finally got around to taking some pics...

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I'm about 5' 6" tall, so the CB doesn't bother me in this location.

Most of us get the power from the front power outlets either directly or by using a plug in 12 volt adaptor. Look at the other post on CB's currently displayed on the forum.

I was looking for the previous discussion on this subject but did not find it (it is there somewhere), but if I recall the information stated that your power source needs to be in front of the ignition not behind it (you need a direct feed off the battery not a switched feed).

I was going to ask about your right knee until I got down to your last picture. What type antenna did you use and where did you get your power from? Do you have engine noise when the motor is running?

does that get your knees?

I am hardwired to the battery. But the chokes are good filters.

The RS celluar type antenna is not a good antenna. They lose a lot trying to put the signal thru the glass. Also, when I talked to someone at RS before about them, they tried to sell me the scanner model. I was surprised....really surprised they were trying to sell the wrong thing.

even if you used switch power, you shoudnt have a lot of interference or noise. where did you mount your cb?

i love the way Cico mounted his its almost like jeep had that planned

There is plenty of clearance for my knee, even though you can't tell from the picture. Power comes from the outlet right next to the CB as is best illustrated in the 2nd pic. The antenna is from RS and a regular magnetic roof mount. I'd kinda like a mount that goes behind one of the rear lights like I've seen in the past on XJs.

Do you have engine noise when the motor is running?


I forgot to address this question. I don't have any engine noise anymore (I did before). The reason is two-fold. First, as cico7 recommended in another thread, I bought a couple of filter thingies from RS that you may see in the second picture just before the inline fuse. I also put a couple on the antenna cable, but I don't know if that really helps much. Second, the CB has 2 noise filtering buttons that do a great job, too. So now the setup works great! :)

cico, nice install.

Thanks! You've saved me some searching time!

Ah you must of got the mental msg I was sending out about planning a CB install and wondering if I wanted to search the posts for ideas.

I mounted mine in between the passenger seat and the center console like one of the others did...(Cico?) I have the same small radio shack cb too only the older version (it's got the red lights instead of green). I did however discover where the feedback was coming from, it's the antennae wire, also I went to a cb shop and they laughed at me for the cell style antennae! For good reason too! They couldn't even get the SWR below an 11 LOL! They did say that they are good to boost cellular phone signals though. I ended up buying a wilson 1000 mag. mount whip and, wow! it made a difference! Next, I'm going to take it in to have it installed professionally installed so there's no wires going everywhere.

http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7979

I have just finished CB installation in my XK today
I put the CB in the left pocket without any cutting and modification...
just pull out inner cage in the pocket .

http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1829&d=1236353765

Nice clean install.
Looks like it was made for it

Rob

That looks good. What make of CB is that?

That looks good. What make of CB is that?

x 2 :rofl:

NIce looking install, several member shave put a CB there and it looks good.

Looks nice! Do you have any trouble hearing it? I thought about mounting a scanner down there, but I figured I wouldn't be able to hear it clearly w/o using an external speaker.
(and where did you mount the linear?) ;)

That looks really good! I'd like to try that, but am shy about these kind of projects (particularly how to wire it). Would you mind doing a little write-up about the install?

I mounted mine there, but relocated an auxiliary speaker to the right of the center console.

x 2 :rofl:

x3 Really.

Is this a long enough post yet?

Where did you mount your antenna if you don't mind me asking?

Nice clean install.
Looks like it was made for it

Rob

thanks a lot ^^

That looks good. What make of CB is that?

thanks ..
CB is made in Korea.. brand name is Hwa-young which is most popular one here in Korea

NIce looking install, several member shave put a CB there and it looks good.

thanks a lot

Looks nice! Do you have any trouble hearing it? I thought about mounting a scanner down there, but I figured I wouldn't be able to hear it clearly w/o using an external speaker.
(and where did you mount the linear?) ;)

thanks..
I installed external speaker as well next to gear-box so i don't have any problem
at all
And I put some linear into the trim under steering wheel

That looks really good! I'd like to try that, but am shy about these kind of projects (particularly how to wire it). Would you mind doing a little write-up about the install?

thanks..
I think it was not difficult to do that..
I will post some more pictures about wiring later

I mounted mine there, but relocated an auxiliary speaker to the right of the center console.

good job
I think that location is the best for CB

Where did you mount your antenna if you don't mind me asking?

I mounted the antenna next to tail-gate as most of members here in forum did

I mounted mine there, but relocated an auxiliary speaker to the right of the center console.

And your pic to document this is where??? Without a pic, it doesnt exist!
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Segona, that is a very nice install. Clean looks. Does your cb use the same frequencies as those in the US?

I hope your JC is bullet proof :)

And your pic to document this is where??? Without a pic, it doesnt exist!
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Segona, that is a very nice install. Clean looks. Does your cb use the same frequencies as those in the US?


Pics are located here...
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562536433iQzoWI?vhost=good-times

And your pic to document this is where??? Without a pic, it doesnt exist!
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Segona, that is a very nice install. Clean looks. Does your cb use the same frequencies as those in the US?

thanks a lot..
here in Korea ... we use 26.965 - 27.405 MHz frequencies Am/Fm

Which do you guys use for trail runs and camps? Do the Talk-about radios work in conjunction with CBs ? If you like a CB, where do you have it mounted ? I like to keep everything in the dash area as clean as possible. I was also looking at something like this.
http://cobra.com/products/handheld-cb-radios/hh-38-wx-st-hand-held-cb-radio-with-weather-soundtracker

By talk about I assume you are referring to the Family Service Radios? If so they do not use the same channels as CB's.

Most people have CB's on the trails. I have mine mounted in the cubby hole above the rearview mirror. You can see it here. (http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6143) Start at post #36.

I use CB for my trail runs. ch.4

By talk about I assume you are referring to the Family Service Radios? If so they do not use the same channels as CB's.

I'm referring to the Motorola Talk-About hand-held radios.

Then my original statement stands. Those radios use the FRS channels.

ok, thanks

I use the hand held Cobra 75 WX ST mounted in the center console area.

I use the Cobra 75 WX ST and had a cigarette adapter put on the end instead of permanently mounting it. It stays in the back in the netted storage area until I need it for trail runs or long trips.

Josh came over yesterday and together we ran the wires to the lights on the rack and ran the CB wire up there too. I will finish up the CB tomorrow and post pics with my son brings my camera home from his weekend camping trip to the Grand Canyon.

I still have to install my light switches and hook them up to the battery but I hope to get that done soon.

The CB shop is tuning my radio and we will install in in the morning just in time for our night ride on Saturday night.

I cannot find a CB shop in Vegas to save my life. I found two on the net and when I called the numbers were no more good....apparently closed down. Emailed themn as well and they both bounced back. I'm ready to do this now, but I want the install done properly, etc.

Where have you guys got your CB's installed? Are they hard wired? How did you mount your antennas?

I got this great little dohicky that I wired into my CB and it plugs into the AUX power output, no worries about fuses and running wires
My antenna has been moved twice because I first screwed it into a flexible part of the sheet metal. I moved it down a few inches to an area that has two pieces of sheet metal attached together and it seems plenty strong now.
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I also have pics of my extra set of back-up lights I installed in my Albums section

Where have you guys got your CB's installed? Are they hard wired? How did you mount your antennas?


Moved your question over here... Lots of great installation ideas in this thread.

http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc337/coultersoforion/Vehicles/CBinstall_9884.jpg

http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc337/coultersoforion/Vehicles/CBinstall_9983.jpg

I've since added a 3" spring to the antenna. I had ripped it off at the Badlands.

Moved your question over here... Lots of great installation ideas in this thread.

Thanks 49er, knew someone would put this where it needed to go. Don't know what I did cause I thought I put it in the garage......

I went ahead and had an antenna permanently mounted professionally. I installed the CB myself. I used the hot wire underneath the driver's seat. I also ended up getting two antennas. First I had gotten the Wilson 3' flex antenna, but was not satisfied with the SWR readings. So I decided to get the Firestick Firefly 4' antenna and it was tuned right out the box. I use the Wilson 3' to drive around local and because it fits in the garage. Then I use the Firestick 4' for trips and offroading.

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Man, our trucks look really similar! I have a couple stickers here and there now and roof rails, but they are pretty close! (the stickers add around 1-2 hp. ea., btw.:orangehat:)

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Man, our trucks look really similar! I have a couple stickers here and there now and roof rails, but they are pretty close! (the stickers add around 1-2 hp. ea., btw.:orangehat:)


They sure do.... Nice looking XK you have there.......

They sure do.... Nice looking XK you have there.......
Thanks man. I took these today after the Red Top got put in (another valid excuse to take XK pics, you see:orangehat:)

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Oh, P.S. What made you decide to put the CB antenna on the rear? Didn't a lot of people say it always works a little better on the front fender? Don't get me wrong, I love the way it looks on the rear bumper--but was just curious about how well it works there in comparrison to the front of the vehicle.

Oh, P.S. What made you decide to put the CB antenna on the rear? Didn't a lot of people say it always works a little better on the front fender? Don't get me wrong, I love the way it looks on the rear bumper--but was just curious about how well it works there in comparrison to the front of the vehicle.

There really is no difference between the front (side) and the back when mounting the antenna on one of the four sides. The best place is anywhere on the roof, any part of the antenna below the roof line is bocked from straight line signal by the body part it is mounted next too.

That is why big rigs mount their antenna on the mirror or roof. And the center of the vehicle provides better service then a corner, etc...

If you mount it on the side or the back, you need to get an antenna long enough to get you at leat 12" over the roof line or more if possible.

got my CB temporarily installed going test its location out this weekend before I make cuts to put it in right.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_oBgUAr9zCHI/S_M6wtaqscI/AAAAAAAAANU/EixP_egKg6M/s512/CB%20mount.jpg I ran the cord threw the grab handle then down to the mic clip this seems to keep it out of my way. That other switch is also not staying there just needed to secure it for the weekend and until I finish my wire lay out for my switch box going on top of the dash

SAL, you have made an excellent choice in the location of your CB.
The switch is good too, what does it control?

JON - Super Moderator -

Can we make this a sticky and label it The CB Shack or something? Then maybe merge all the CB threads into it??? And then delete this request
after the STICKY was made???

Or maybe give it a catchy title like "CB Citizens Band Radio Discussion Thread" ?

JON - Super Moderator -

Can we make this a sticky and label it The CB Shack or something? Then maybe merge all the CB threads into it??? And then delete this request
after the STICKY was made???

Or maybe give it a catchy title like "CB Citizens Band Radio Discussion Thread" ?

Never know if you are for real or being sarcastic my friend....

SAL, you have made an excellent choice in the location of your CB.
The switch is good too, what does it control?
The switch is for my off road lights on the basket.

Never know if you are for real or being sarcastic my friend....

When someone calls me buddy or my friend, I know I am about to lose something......

I am serious....make it a sticky, a better title, delete my post that isnt related to the content of the thread.

I could have done a PM but I thought I would make the idea public for other input.

Sticky is a good idea.


(cico7 was being playful earlier.)


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Sticky is a good idea.


(cico7 was being playful earlier.)


:orangehat:

Already done at Cico7's request!

CB Thread (http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5203)
Another CB Thread (http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5817)