Thanks for the picture comment, i cheated i got my tires used. new they come 19/32 but my tires are only 14/32. Its funny i thought at first i didnt need spacers but with those rims the off set is off a little when i put them on the jeep it would'nt even move because of the calipers sticking right against the rim. Only time they rub is at full lock. Found a guy whoi was trading in is jeep got the tires/rims for 500