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Does the dealer really have to code my radio for dvd?

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I have an 07 Commander and just picked up a factory DVD VES system on ebay from a dealer (all complete, instructions, templates, brackets, etc)
My question is that in the instructions it says the delaer has to "flash" my radio with a sales code for the DVD to turn on. Is this true. Ive heard yes and no. I guess I thought itd just be "plug and play"?

Its an RAQ 6 disc radio.

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Yes he does, he has to set the CAN BUS to recognize the radio as a NAV unit it it'll throw an CEL code. Silly, but true.

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Yes, he has to change a setting in the CAN BUS or it'll throw a CEL code.

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Thank you!

Guess Ill have the dealer do the complete install then.

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Yes he does, he has to set the CAN BUS to recognize the radio as a NAV unit it it'll throw an CEL code. Silly, but true.
He is not installing a radio. He is installing the OEM overhead DVD system. He says he has an RAQ radio in his XK. The RAQ is not a navigation unit. I think he can just connect the VES to the radio and not need any programming by the dealer. At least it would be worth a try first and if it doesn't work then go to the dealer and get it programmed.


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Jeep, yes u are correct on my install question! thank u!

Im guessing I am gonna need the star scan done to the radio. I found in the bottom of the box today, a sheet with instructions on what steps to take once the star scan is hooked up.

Basically, its just scrolling down and when it get to "VES" there's an "add" option.

Either way, the dealer says $385 for the factory overhead install which I figgy isnt bad,Thanks for your input!

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What is required is very confusing, because Chrysler is NOT forthcoming with the necessary information and they intentionally disable accessories and components that must be "enabled" by the Dealer. For no other reason I can find, other than to create business for the Dealership.

1.) Its unecessary, aviation and IT has been dealing with bus control and configuration for decades before Chrysler, and there are all sorts of strategies to very easily totally automate changing things on the bus without having to do extra work with extra tools to configure it.

2.) At least for the accessories I have dealt with, bus configuration was NOT an issue. (I have NOT dealt with a DVD unit though) I don't have the dealer starscan, even if I could afford it, with dealernet needed for many things, I would still be locked out of my own vehicle even if I did buy the outrageously priced tool. But the tools I do have, I can monitor the bus and perform built-in self-tests on the modules, they are the bus and communicating, plug & play, they run their self-test and report through the bus they pass. They are simply disabled until the starscan tool enables them. As well, I've seen posts from folks lucky enough to find the module they want in a junkyard, that was previously used, since it had been enabled before, it works plug & play, no trip to the Dealership necessary. So why don't they work plug & play new, when they work plug & play used, with no problem at all?

My Guess, that could be wrong, if you are installing a used unit that was enabled before, it should still be enabled and should work plug & play, but that is only the unit itself, it it needs to interact with other units, with features that are turned off in the other unit, that feature likely will NOT turn on automatically. Now, if you need a feature turned on, in the OEM radio, that very well may need the dealer starscan tool to turn it on. Even though the bus could easily configure itself with the bus controller, and turn the feature on in the radio, but then the dealer wouldn't get any $$$. I would think you would still save a lot of money doing the install yourself, and only pay for the labor to use the starscan tool and NOT hours of extra labor.

Call around, some dealers will only charge a half-hour of labor for a simple 5 minute starscan jobs, while others charge a whole hour. One dealer near me charges $50 while the other charges $105 for the tech to hook up the starscan and press a couple of buttons.


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