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Bad advise from Valvoline "Express Care"

My XK: 5.7L limited, QDII.

Took it to a Valvoline "Express Care" to get diffential fluid and oil changed. They told me that their 75w-140 gear oil already had friction modifier additive IN it.

From what I've been reading, this is incorrect. 1300 miles later, am I screwed? Car seems to drive fine, though I've been noticing more "road noise" on the highway, which, until now, I was attributing to new tires (that I had installed at the same time)-- now I'm thinking this noise is caused by the differentials lacking the friction modifier additive.

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I doubt the stuff is in it, but you never know. Go back to the place, demand to see a bottle of the stuff, and read the label. If it isn't in it, they owe you a diff rebuild.

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I doubt the stuff is in it, but you never know. Go back to the place, demand to see a bottle of the stuff, and read the label. If it isn't in it, they owe you a diff rebuild.
Errr. Maybe I'm over-reacting here. Here's the product info for the gear oil:
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/SynPower_Gear_Oils.pdf

"The addition of a supplemental friction modifier(Ford M2C-118-A, Chrysler MS-5630, or GM 1052358) is not required."
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Well... whadda know. I'll have to get that next time instead of paying the dealer thru the nose for special little bottles of (grossly overpriced) Mopar stuff.

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You can get friction modifiers (limited slip additive) from parts stores for like $5. If your not sure, put another tube in with the gear oil.

On a side note, make sure the Valvoline store you went to actually uses Valvoline gear oil. Sounds funny, but I went through this with a Pennzoil lube that wasn't using Pennzoil products. Just because the sign says Valvoline, does not mean they always use Valvoline products. Be an informed consumer and ask, then ask again. Most of the time, their oils are bulk, so ask if they have gear oil in a sealed quart bottle (or something of the same) that they can put in to be sure.


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I don't use instant oil change places. I buy my own oil and have the dealer put it in with a mopar filter. As for tranny and 4x4 service ,I'd rather have the dealer do it then I know it is done right with the right products.

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Exactly what I was talking about in another thread, the guy only has four posts and you're already busting his balls. Is that the original title or did you change it?
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It the axles don't make any noise when doing figure 8 turns, you're probably ok, but if it does make noise then you'll probably want to get some friction modifier from the dealership, not the auto parts store.
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