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Break pads need replacement, any recommendations?

I checked the front break pads today, and found that they need to be changed soon. the current millage is 20K miles only, but I think they wear out quickly due to the excessive engagement of Traction control on sand dunes driving.

Any suggestions/recommendation of the new break pads? or shall I go for the OME ones.

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I would suggest going back with OEM, I had dealer replace mine He did not use OEM pads with in 5000 mile they started squeaking and had brake dust all over wheels. I took XK back they installed OEM pads at their cost.

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Any ceramic brake pad, if not you will get squeaking!




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Any particular brand of ceramic pads you recommend?

Is it ok to put on with the old rotors? or I have to replace them with ceramic ones

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make sure you or the person installing pads turns rotors.

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make sure you or the person installing pads turns rotors.
Do you mean machining the rotors?

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Yes, that is what I mean

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Although it sounds unacceptable, machining of rotors is nowadays considered optional and only necessary if rotors are not parrellel [S.P.?], or they are scored from metal to metal contact. The reasoning is, why remove rotor material unless necessary to return to specification? Jeep says [all automakers say] the pads will conform to the minor rotor grooving during pad break in. Although it makes me a little nuts to do this, [Tech,46years], especially the first time years ago,it works just fine. The concept is an offshoot of motorcycle brake service. Their rotors are stainless steel and have very little material to give to machining. They would have to milled as opposed to turned and that would be expensive. Anyways, they always replace pads with no rotor service and it takes a 100 miles or so for them to bed in. Works fine.
Relative to pad material, you generally are trying to balance [compromise] between good wear, minimum rotor tearing, quiet operation, good and consistent pedal feel.
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With very few exceptions I still have the best results with the original equipment.
Now, if you are going to start track racing your Commander, then start using carbon ceramic or carbon metallic. Plan on rotor replacement due to hard spotting at every brake job. LOL.

I apologize in advance for the hub bub that will ensue due to the machining of rotor response, but, thats out of the common service manual.
I would however, machine the rotors if I was not using the o.e. pads, regardless of their condition.
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I've had nothing but good experiences with Raybestos QS (Quiet Stop) pads. They are a ceramic pad that are engineered to produce very little brake dust (the little dust they produce isn't black like OEM pads, but more of a light grey that doesn't make your wheels look dirty) and no noise.

If you don't want to go ceramic, they also make PG Plus pads which are also low dust and don't make noise. I have used nothing but these pads on all my vehicles in the past and I've been very happy with them. When my OEM pads wear out on my 4Runner, I'm definitely going with the QS pads.
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Although it sounds unacceptable, machining of rotors is nowadays considered optional and only necessary if rotors are not parrellel [S.P.?], or they are scored from metal to metal contact. The reasoning is, why remove rotor material unless necessary to return to specification? Jeep says [all automakers say] the pads will conform to the minor rotor grooving during pad break in. Although it makes me a little nuts to do this, [Tech,46years], especially the first time years ago,it works just fine.
I think the never ending quest for higher fuel economy forced auto manufacturers to look for ways to save weight on their vehicles. Once easy way to do this is to use lighter weight rotors, which means that they are close to the minimum thickness specification even when new. Of course this means that they are basically throw-away rotors that are not able to be machined like the heavy rotors that came on older vehicles.

In a way, SUV and light truck drivers are lucky that our rotors are able to be machined and still be within minimum thickness tolerances. But it is still important to realize that any time you machine a rotor, there's less material remaining to disappate heat, therefore your rotors are more likely to warp and cause pulsation in the brake pedal. Personally, I'd rather just install new rotors instead of machining them, even on an SUV or light truck.
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