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A little update. I had the driver rear wheel come loose (3 lugs were able to be spun with my fingers) on my wife last Friday. I watched the installers torque them all down, then a 2nd guy recheck all of them. I failed to recheck torque after 50 miles like I usually do.

The shop (owner is a friend of mine) wondered if the hub size for the JK wheel was smaller than the XK and had me take off a wheel ( I live an hour away and it was over the weekend) to see if the wheel had wallowed out or if there were any rub marks. I found no rub marks on the wheel or the hub. I had purchased some little 1/4" spacers in case the wheels touched the calipers and tried them after cleaning the mounting surfaces of the hubs and wheels. I am only getting 4 full turns on the lug nuts with the spacers before hitting 100lb torque with my wrench. I plan to take the wheels off tomorrow and remove the spacers to see how many turns I can get without the spacers. I also have new lug nuts coming in case my originals are worn. I don't feel comfortable with that few turns on the studs. Anyone else run into this?



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A little update. I had the driver rear wheel come loose (3 lugs were able to be spun with my fingers) on my wife last Friday. I watched the installers torque them all down, then a 2nd guy recheck all of them. I failed to recheck torque after 50 miles like I usually do.

The shop (owner is a friend of mine) wondered if the hub size for the JK wheel was smaller than the XK and had me take off a wheel ( I live an hour away and it was over the weekend) to see if the wheel had wallowed out or if there were any rub marks. I found no rub marks on the wheel or the hub. I had purchased some little 1/4" spacers in case the wheels touched the calipers and tried them after cleaning the mounting surfaces of the hubs and wheels. I am only getting 4 full turns on the lug nuts with the spacers before hitting 100lb torque with my wrench. I plan to take the wheels off tomorrow and remove the spacers to see how many turns I can get without the spacers. I also have new lug nuts coming in case my originals are worn. I don't feel comfortable with that few turns on the studs. Anyone else run into this?



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A couple of things;

If three of your lug nuts worked themselves loose, you definitely have a large problem - in 32 years of driving, that has never happened to me with any vehicle I've owned.

2nd, I've never heard of anybody buying & running 1/4 inch wheel spacers, that was definitely a bad decision on your part and you put you & your wife's safety at risk unnecessarily.

You should take them off immediately, right now, if you haven't done it already.

Wheel spacers are a very weak link, particularly on a 4x4 and although Spider-Trax spacers have proven to be pretty reliable, I wouldn't recommend running any wheel spacers whatsoever, if you can avoid it.

I think you'll be pretty hard-pressed to find someone that has had an experience like this.


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Thanks. I took them off. I wasn't comfortable with them at all. Life got in the way and I kept forgetting to come back with an update.



I was still having trouble so I bought new lug nuts all around. I checked at 50 miles, a few needed a tiny little tightening. I checked at 200 miles and all were still good. I occasionally check them if I am out doing yard work and the like and they are still all tight. Seems like maybe the lugs were just worn. All good now!

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Thanks. I took them off. I wasn't comfortable with them at all. Life got in the way and I kept forgetting to come back with an update.



I was still having trouble so I bought new lug nuts all around. I checked at 50 miles, a few needed a tiny little tightening. I checked at 200 miles and all were still good. I occasionally check them if I am out doing yard work and the like and they are still all tight. Seems like maybe the lugs were just worn. All good now!
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I remember you said you were running 1/4 inch wheel spacers - are you also running something other than the factory rims?


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