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265/70/17 ok without a lift?

Hi, I know there has been lots of chat around this subject but I couldn't really see a definitive answer to this if anyone can help?

I'm running a stock setup on my Hemi and wanted to get some larger tires for the 17 x 7.5 rims.

Will 265/70/17s fit without a lift? I'm happy to put spacers in but don't really want to go through the expense of a lift.

If so what are the smallest spacers I can get away with?

Is there anyway of going for 285s without a lift?

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Hi, I know there has been lots of chat around this subject but I couldn't really see a definitive answer to this if anyone can help?

I'm running a stock setup on my Hemi and wanted to get some larger tires for the 17 x 7.5 rims.

Will 265/70/17s fit without a lift? I'm happy to put spacers in but don't really want to go through the expense of a lift.

If so what are the smallest spacers I can get away with?

Is there anyway of going for 285s without a lift?

Thanks
I don't even think those tires will fit on the stock rims your rims would have to be at least 17 x 8 to accommodate 265/70/17's.

That being said - even with the proper rims, you would most definitely experience rubbing issues running 265/70/17's without at least a 2 inch lift.

That's a big fat NO with 285's too, which is an even taller tire.


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Almost Definitely no. Some people have gotten away with 31's, but barely and its rare.




you can ran 265's on a 7" wheel... its only 10 mm wider then the 255's that come stock on a lot of these wheel/tire setups. You don't need much spacer for that if any depending on the tire and how aggressive the tread/side lugs are. The first interference on tread width is the bolt for the UCA ball joint. slip on spacers could work... but these rigs are hub centric so there are not very many of those available. Most people go with 1.25" spacers on the low end. I'm not a fan of spacers but the extra track width is real nice (i have aftermarket rims with less backspacing that are similar to running 1.5" spacers IIRC.


You could maybe do 285's if you keep the sidewall down and run spacers.



basically worst thing that happens with a tire too wide for a rim is that you wear out the centers a bit faster. A lot of guys running tires that wide on rims below the recommended range. I would choose not to personally though.



BTW the first number in a tire dimension is tread width, the second number is an aspect ratio that determines sidewall height based on tread width.



255/70r17's would maybe work, but you have a a heavy hemi and these rigs tend to sag a bit over the years of use. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you got some minor rub with that setup when going from lock to lock with the suspension flexed.
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[QUOTE=luckyse7ens;519561]Almost Definitely no. Some people have gotten away with 31's, but barely and its rare.




you can ran 265's on a 7" wheel... its only 10 mm wider then the 255's that come stock on a lot of these wheel/tire setups. You don't need much spacer for that if any depending on the tire and how aggressive the tread/side lugs are. The first interference on tread width is the bolt for the UCA ball joint. slip on spacers could work... but these rigs are hub centric so there are not very many of those available. Most people go with 1.25" spacers on the low end. I'm not a fan of spacers but the extra track width is real nice (i have aftermarket rims with less backspacing that are similar to running 1.5" spacers IIRC.


Hmmm, ok. Luckyse7ens not sure I was reading your email correctly as you start by saying probably not but then you may suggest that with spacers I could run the 265/70s?

I presume I can cut the bolt down (if there's the length to do it). I can get hub centric spacers.

If I did want to go with a lift, how much does a lift cost, is it a tricky, lengthy operation?

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I've just seen this thread where someone suggests that you can put in 245/75/17 BFG ATs which are 31.5" in diameter without any rubbing on a stock setup, no lift. A few others seem to suggest it too.

And I was wondering, if this is the case, why can't a BFG AT 265/65 or a BFG AT 265/70 fit if I use a spacer to counter the extra width of the 265s as one has a smaller diameter and the 70s are 2.5mm larger which seems such a tiny difference? Thanks

https://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/...duratracs.html

Generic size chart (Tacomaworld):
245/75 - 31.47 - 799.3
265/65 - 30.56 - 776.3
265/70 - 31.61 - 802.8

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BFG AT 245/75 - 31.5 - 800.1
BFG AT 265/65 - 30.5 - 774.7
BFG AT 265/70 - 31.6 - 802.6

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Hi guys, anyone got any more thoughts on this?

My 1.25" spacers have arrived so going to slap them on in the next couple of days when I have time! Can't wait to see the wider look and feel the difference round corners with the wider base. Will take photos.

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photos of my stock setup - no idea why it has turned them upside dow. Can't seem to get them to rotate, sorry
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I don't even think those tires will fit on the stock rims your rims would have to be at least 17 x 8 to accommodate 265/70/17's.

That being said - even with the proper rims, you would most definitely experience rubbing issues running 265/70/17's without at least a 2 inch lift.

That's a big fat NO with 285's too, which is an even taller tire.
I already gave you my thoughts based on my experience......if you don't want to listen, I can't help you.


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Wow, no need to take offence @BigBlue ! I was actually speaking more to @luckyse7ens as he was seeming to suggest you could (unless I have misread his reply). I’ve asked the question because some other people have been able to fit tires you are saying can’t and if the 245/75 can fit then I’m just asking for others experience and thoughts on fitting anything of a similar size.

If you’ve given your full opinion then thanks Big blue, I certainly wasn’t making an attack on your judgment!! Just asking for others thoughts.

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