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[EDIT] 275/60/17 tires, 17x9 wheels, 2" lift...

*Edited layout from a 265/65/17 to a 275/60/17, see further posts*

No, I haven't done this yet, because I want you all to proofread my work, make sure I'm not screwin' it up before I go drop 2 grand tomorrow.

Disclaimer: I'm a noob at this, I've never seriously modded a vehicle, and a lot of this is new to me. I've spent hours readin the 'net and this forum just trying to figure it all out, so I could be way off.

Here is me in a nutshell, just to give you reference for what I'm tryin' to do. I'm mostly a road-driver, but I am interested in doing *light* off-roading from time to time, mainly just trips through easy trails to look at the scenery and stuff. I'm not interested in arching my back spanning chasms and crawling my front tire up redwood trees and stuff, if you catch my drift. I want a vehicle that is sturdy in bad conditions, which it is for the most part, but I just wanna spice things up.

What I truly desire in modding my Commander is achieving a "wide stance", not necessarily huge height, although I would like a little bump up. A proper analogy when I view my stock Commander is that it's wearing a nice suit, but sporting a lame pair of shoes. I wanna improve my shoes.

I want versatility, so that my highway traveling is comfy, yet if the moment arises, I can detour into the woods and dirt without having to worry.

I currently use the stock Fortera's 245/65/17's, and some crappy lookin alloy rims.

Here is what I have come up with:

[Wheels]
Moto Metal 951's 17x9:
(example here) http://www.truck-toyz.com/picrequests/166-6687_img.jpg

[Tires]
Toyo Open Country A/T P265/65R17
(example here) http://www.discount-tires-2go.com/St...ShowLarge=True

I believe that wheel/tire combo works, correct me if I'm wrong.

Local shop wants to go with Daystar 2" lift, which is fine by me if it works. The 2" lifts are $165, the 4" lifts are $1500+, so I'll be sticking with the 2" for now, lol.

And then, once all of that is done, I want to see how it looks and determine if I'll be adding spacers, Spidertrax I presume. I'm hoping I'll achieve the desired "wide" stance by the wider tires/wheels and the spacers.

Do you guys see any problems with rubbing or anything with this setup?

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I personally wouldn't run a 265/70 with a 17x9 wheel. I think a 17x7.5(stock wheel) or 17x8 is the widest wheel I'd run with that narrow of a tire. I know its probablly impossible to find a 17x8. Ubercommander has 17x8.5 AEV Pintler wheels and if I recall correctly he mentioned that the 265/70 was the absolute smallest tire recommended for that wheel. I personall have seen his vehicle and dont really see a problem with the tire wheel combo (as in the width he is running) but personally wouldn't run anything less then a 275 or 285 on his size wheel.

Again this is my personal opinion, and im sure other might disagree with me. Im just looking out for you safety. A 265mm wide tire is a narrow tire to be stretching across a 9 inch wide wheel.




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Because you are buying new wheels I think you can avoid the wheel spacers. Just make sure the wheels provide the right offset to accomplish what the spacers and stock wheels would have.

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Okay, glad I asked, then. I'll keep workin on it.
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Okay, went back to the shop, we looked and tweaked and came up with the following setup:

ProComp 6059 17x9 with a -8mm offset

Here is a wrangler unlimited sporting the same wheels:
http://www.benhedrick.com/JK9.jpg

I stuck with the Toyo's, just changed the size.
Toyo Open Country A/T 275/60/17. 29.9 inches tall and 11.1 inches wide.

Still goin with the 2" lift. The guy there seemed to think I'd have no problem with rubbing, but they'd work it out if it did.

I came to realize last night that I really don't want a taller tire than the stock Fortera's, I just want a fatter tire with a little more aggressive tread pattern. Like I said earlier, I'm going for a wider stance. I'd like the tire to protrude from the flare about a half inch to an inch.

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Went ahead with the aforementioned setup above, should be mounted by the middle of next week, so I guess we'll just see how it goes from here. Will post pics if I can. Guy said I could return the tires and get new ones if these don't work out.

I think it'll look okay though.
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I tried to Photoshop what I envision it will look like. I hope it looks something like this, although the my tread pattern will obviously be less aggressive than the mud terrain tire that is on the wheel.
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I tried to Photoshop what I envision it will look like. I hope it looks something like this, although the my tread pattern will obviously be less aggressive than the mud terrain tire that is on the wheel.

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I'm doin some searches on this forum and the net, and I can't really find any references of someone previously throwing a 17x9" rim and 275/60's on a Commander, so this should be interesting to see if it works. Gonna be bummed if it doesn't.

I currently have the 17x7.5" Hulks, and I'm unsure of the offset on those, so I guess that'll be the key:

Old rig:
??? offset on Hulk wheels
7.5" inch width of the Hulk wheels
9.7" inch width of the Fortera tires

New rig:
-8mm offset on ProComp wheels
9" width of the ProComp wheels
11.1 inch width of the Toyo tires

These Toyo tires are almost exactly the same height, but are a little over an inch wider than the Fortera's, and since the new wheel will be offset by 1/3 inch (8mm), it's safe to assume this new tire/wheel combo will be sticking "out" a little farther than I currently am... curious to see if I'll be rubbing the well when I turn the wheel.

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Here’s my two cents worth: (And that’s about all it’s worth. )

First of all, you’ll like the Toyo Open country. I’ve had that same tire on a log of rigs. They wear like iron, and grip good for a pretty quiet highway running tire. Any more tread and you’ll get pavement howlers.

I’d stay away from larger diameter tires, and go for width. You go much taller, and you’re getting into replacing both differentials ring and pinion gear sets because your mileage just took a plummet. Your gearing is right for highway use and mileage, so if you go taller, your engine runs too slow and falls out of its best torque RPM. You also lose off-road torque, but that’s probably not a real big problem with the 2.7:1 transfer case gearing. (Most 4x4 SUV’s transfer cases are less than 2:1)

And, (although you’re already looking at them) stay away from spacers and find wheels with the right offset. Spacers are a compromise at best because they weaken the wheel to hub connection. I’ve had couple of spacers get torn up in heavy off-roading. I’ve also seen them fail. Usually when they let go, you’re on the move, so the bodywork rides up on the loose tire/wheel and a lot of body damage happens.

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