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18" Casino Chrome-Clad Quality/Construction Question

Upon inspecting the Overland's 18" Casino Chrome-Clad wheels I question their quality. From the backside it's clear that these are not solid one-piece wheels. It seems as though a solid aluminum wheel is bonded to a chrome plated hub-cap style fascia. At first I thought the wheel, the spare, was of a cheaper construction than the main wheels. No, all five are of identical construction.

You can clearly see this two-piece design from the backside where a foam filler is visible between gaps in the fascia and the solid wheel. I can't determine the material on the fascia; is it a plastic, or also a plated aluminum?

Being clearly a person that keeps his vehicles for at least 10 years, I am concerned about the longevity of these wheels in winter, mud, water, heat, UV, and dust.

Anyone know anything more about the anatomy of these "Casino" wheels?

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Seeing as how everyone chimed in and had a lot of information about the construction of the 18" chrome wheels <sarcasm>, I'm assuming it's because we're not talking about a baller-ghetto 22" wheel topic...

Figure some pics would help

Here's the wheels, left one freshly cleaned, right one dirty.



Inside detail I'm talking about, you can see the fascia or "cap" is affixed to the aluminum wheel and filled in with foam adhesive.





Again, anyone have anything to say sarcastic or constructive is appreciated. Just for curiosity I'm wondering how this sort of construction holds up and what material is under the chrome plating? Feels like plastic, but could be some sort of metal as well...

I politely return you back to your East LA and Detroit Baller 22" wheel talk

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This is called a chrome clad wheel. A very common way of making chrome wheels these days. Do a google and read up on it.

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Thanks, you're about as sarcastic as I am.

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Thanks, you're about as sarcastic as I am.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I was just trying to give you some info on your question.

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http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/Chrome_Clad_Wheels.html


"Chrome cladded can be described as a wheel that has a chromed stainless steel or plastic fascia that is permanently attached to a steel or alloy wheel.

This list of pictures below shows a cross section of a Cladded Wheel from many different angles. Cladding has become the standard for most new "Factory"

This is a much more durable finish than regular chrome. Also Cladding is "GREEN" Environmentally Friendly."


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5253,

Seriously though, that's excellent information. I'm not quite sold on the plastic fascia still. I can see these getting gouged easily. Ironic, the Overland is supposed to be the most OEM capable off the production line, yet it's so delicate...

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These "Chrome Clad" wheels are not able to be rechromed or refurbished at this time. So if you scratch or gouge one, the only repair is replacement.-43

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Chrome plating really does not play well with aluminum and vice versa.
Usually the chrome will begin delaminating/peeling within 2 years.
Odds are someone on the forum can go into long detail, I'm just speaking from my own experience in the show car community.
The chrome cladding will stay good looking far longer (assuming you clean and wax them).

Regardless of the construction, if you curb rash it, it's trashy looking and replacement is the only repair, cladding or not.

Having fought with chrome plated aluminum wheels trying to keep them clean and corrosion free, I'd vote for the cladding.

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This is turning into a good discussion. I've taken 5253's vector to Google chrome cladding and found out there are as many opinions on how to care for chrome clad as there are anatomical parts per person posting. Meguiar's staff states that you can pretty much use any of the wheel care products made for real chrome on chrome clad. I'll go with that for now, and a waxing.

I'm warming up to the idea because my '86 CJ chromed steel OEM wheels are trashed. I'm not a show detailer, but I do take care of my stuff. As you see from the pics I posted, I take the wheels completely off the vehicle at least twice a year to get the inside and out completely clean. I don't know when I got like that, maybe because brake dust and dirt looks ghetto when you see it through the wheels, and nothing makes a car look cleaner than clean wheels. Even if someone doesn't realize it when they're looking at it. Any way...

My CJ's wheels are trash even with the care I provided. But that's 23 years on those wheels. But that's chrome on steel and didn't start bubbling or delaminating until year 13 or so. If I can expect 10 out of "clad" I'd be happy.

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