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Yet another HID thread

I've read through at least a dozen HID threads. This is the only mod I've yet to do that I am quite interested in. I do not have the foglight housing, otherwise I'd probably just do that. So I'm thinking low and high beams. Only concerns are:

**I see some saying the stock lamp housing projects light inappropriately with HIDs (blinding other drivers). Can this be adjusted to an acceptable level, or am I going to be hated by everyone on the road?

**Relay/CANBUS system is necessary, but does that include high beams? Also, I see here a CANBUS ballast: http://www.jaedarautomotive.com/Shop...bushidkits.asp

Will that eliminate the need for a relay? The CANBUS product page offers an optional accessory for a relay, but perhaps their website just isn't very well constructed. I've contacted their support but would like to get input here as well.
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Yes, you will be hated...and possibly targeted by the police.

Basically the reflector housing was designed for the bulb that is in it. The HID bulbs are longer and skinnier which distorts the way the light is reflected causing a blinding glare to other drivers.

If you ever have noticed a car with HIDs has a sharp cut off. This is to eliminated the glare.

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Is there any way to combat this at all by blocking light from perhaps the top portion of the bulb? More than enough people here say they've been running HIDs to make me want to at least try it.
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Not without a complete retrofit.

Sure lots of people do it...but that doesn't mean it's always the best route.

My opinion is why bother with an HID kit in a halogen housing when there are several brighter halogen options out there? You are probably getting half the potential light output the HIDs can deliver by putting them in.

My other car is lower than 99% of all other cars on the road, so when someone in a car with HIDs slapped in it pulls up behind me it sucks. When they are oncoming I loose all visibility, which sucks worse.

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I'm running Sylvania zXe bulbs which are a pure white and fairly bright. I just wanted to get the more cool temperature white look along with brightness. I suppose I won't bother with the hassle.
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I'm running Sylvania zXe bulbs which are a pure white and fairly bright. I just wanted to get the more cool temperature white look along with brightness. I suppose I won't bother with the hassle.
With cooler temps you loose brightness & with anything above 6000k you can forget about night/rain visibility.

You could still try it and if you don't like it sell the HIDs on this forum pretty quickly.

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I think I will do that. Might as well give it a shot, and at worst I lose 25% restocking fee. Just wondering if I need the relay since I'm getting a CANBUS system.
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buy a 35w hid kit and not a 55w . 55w is brighter and produce more heat witch will probably damage the housing.

go to ddmtuning.com thats where i buy all my hids from best price and great service too! im running 35w hid kits on low 6000k high 5000k and fog 3000k never had a problem.never been flashed or stopped on the low beams and fog of course with the high on its so bright that you have to turn them off but i wouldnt drive on a dark road without them.im up to almost 5 years with my kit on my hayabusa without a problem so i would say that for near the same price that 2 sylvania silverstar its a super investment!!

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Isn't having HIDs in the high beams somewhat inefficient if you have to turn them on/off quite a bit? But I did grab a 35W kit. How did you aim your lights?

Also, my multi function stalk has issues with flashing all interior/exterior lights a few times quickly due to the computer thinking the lights are being shut off, then they go back on. I can usually get it to stop, but would this rapid flashing kill the HIDs?

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Isn't having HIDs in the high beams somewhat inefficient if you have to turn them on/off quite a bit? But I did grab a 35W kit. How did you aim your lights?

Also, my multi function stalk has issues with flashing all interior/exterior lights a few times quickly due to the computer thinking the lights are being shut off, then they go back on. I can usually get it to stop, but would this rapid flashing kill the HIDs?
the only downside is that hids needs to warm up to give the most light so if u turn them off then on right away you wont notice anything but if u turn them off for more then let say 15sec then u can see a decrease in intencity then its back to normal in 2 or 3 sec.

my hi and low are on wiring harness sold at ddmtuning its pluged directly to the battery and ground with a relay and uses only the car circuit to energize the relay.ive never had what u describe

as for the aiming i didnt play with it.to me theyre ok and like i said doesnt seem to bug no one

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