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Relocating the OEM Back-up Camera

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The problem: Installed my spiffy new Get Lost 4x4 rear tire carrier recently. I ordered the offset mount to keep my rear camera, but Ross no longer sells that version. The backup sensors scream about the carrier, so they are turned off.

Here's the problem: the camera gives a great view of the backside of the can carrier. Not very helpful. Especially when the 3rd row is full of car seats.

So, it was time to move the camera. I had great dreams that it used a standard RCA jack or some such connector that would make for an easy extension cable. Alas, 'twas not to be.

I started with the idea of taking pictures as I went along. However, I kind of forgot that part. The next picture is after the hatch trim is already off and the door latch trim is loose (whatever you call it). The trim came off with a combination of screws, one forlorn torx head, and a bunch of tabs. Only one of which died on removal / reinstall.


The trim is off the hatch. The door latch/camera trim is held by two clips and two bolts. The bolts hold this side of the latch cable in place. And they're 10mm nuts, of course. Here the cable end is hanging free


Here's the big hole in the center of the door panel, once insulation is removed. A shows where the door latch / camera bolts came through. B is the connector plug that will be important later.

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part deux


Finally, the camera. This is the back of the door latch trim. A is the camera. B is the special plug that connects to the camera. So much for making an extension cord!

Time to shift to plan B. How about cutting the special plug off and adding cable to it? Then I could mount the camera anywhere. The original plan was to put the camera out on the carrier somewhere. Now I realized that would require a long cable run and more lines passing between the hatch and body. So new plan popped in: Put the camera INSIDE the hatch! No long cables to run, protected from weather, etc.



The pigtail cut off the wire. The tape was already there. This gave me my working line.
Wires on the camera:
Red.....\
Black....-- signal line?
Sheild../
Brown -\
Green -- power lines?

Traced the wires back to the connector, and found what wires changed color:
camera........harness
red..........green w/ black stripe
black.......green w/ brown stripe
shield.......green w/ white stripe
brown.......white w/ green stripe
green........black

No problem, right? Now I know which lines to tap in to. Everything went fine until I hit the black wire - there's two of them in the harness! I picked one and it works.

So here was the idea: Pick a spot on the top of the hatch to mount the camera. Splice the pigtail in to the wiring harness, using the colors above. Mount the camera and pray.

As a test, I picked a spot where I thought the camera would work, exposed some wires, and did some cutting and splicing. The camera worked! So I then soldered up all the splices and mounted the camera.



Here was the first mounting. Cut the trim by trial and error until it fit. Slabbed on some gobs of 5-minute epoxy and let it sit.



The problem: the plug fit so snugly the other side won't latch on. Fortunately, the 5-minute epoxy was lazy and hadn't completely set, so it came back apart.



the solution: screws always work. I found a scrap angle laying around and put it to work on one side. The other just used a screw into the plastic


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end of the trilogy


So here it is in place and ready to go. When all done, I realized it looked like it was angled out to one side. I decided to wait on the results before adjusting.

The test:


backed up close to the yellow boy.



the view through the rear-view mirror. Toddlers in the 3rd row make for lousy rear-views.


The camera Lives! We're quite happy with the view. I might make minor angle changes later, but now we have a camera.
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Good Job. I was considering mounting a new camera above the third brake light on the outside of the rear hatch and just splicing into the cable. Thanks for doing the research and showing the way. I recently bought a security camera that has color and switches to infrared at night. It uses 12 volts so I think it will work and it is an exterior camera.

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Greatjob SESPE, thanks for sharing
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That's cool, Kudos!

P.S. I really love the spare tire on the back! First time I've seen it on an XK.

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Great write-up. I know I plan to add a tire carrier and this mod will have to eventually be done on mine as well.



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Great write-up. I know I plan to add a tire carrier and this mod will have to eventually be done on mine as well.
Can't wait to see this!

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Jon, I found this old thread. We should do both of ours at the same time. I was going to mount a camera I bought for security on the outside above the rear hatch, but this seems more practical and would protect the camera better as well as reusing the existing camera. If we get organized we could probably do both on the same day. Maybe get Josh to do the work and just watch him or maybe if Psycho comes to Silverton we could talk him into it. As I think about it lets con...oops encourage Sespe Commander into a repeat or even a threepeat at Silverton. Lets make up such a good story about an ultimate door prize for the drawing that he will have to come there. I know that the million dollar prize for lowest ET at the drag races got you motivated...

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Thanks Huey, This looks like the way to go. I too forgot about this thread.



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