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3.0 CRD Diesel Engine Swap in Commander

Anyone swap out their engine on a 2006 or 2007 to the 3.0 CRD Diesel that they carried in the Grand Cherokee.
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3.0 CRD Diesel Jeep Commander

Anyone know where to buy one in the US or Canada. I know they exported it Europe.

Thanks
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That engine was available in the US in the GC, so you may be able to find one in a salvage yard. Previous to the GC, a CRD was available in the Liberty, but I do not know if it was the same engine. It is a MB engine, so it might be easy to find, although the electronics might not match between a MB and a Jeep. They should be pretty close between the GC and the Commander.
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I am pretty sure the diesel that went in to the GC is the same 3.0 liter Bluetec engine in the Mercedes ML and R series. I also bet it is the same that is in the Sprinter vans.

I'm just guessing here, but I think if you get one of the Bluetecs from something other than a GC, you will have to find someone to tune the computer for you. Also, there may be fitment questions concerning transmissions if if comes from something other than a GC. The flip side is that you might have better luck getting an engine from a Sprinter and at a better price since there are more of them around.

Also, at some point, I believe the 3.0 Bluetec went from using a DPF to urea. That's just something to keep in mind.

I don't believe the Libby ever had the 3.0 MB diesel.



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It should be pointed out, that with the extensive electronics and how Chrysler has made access to them proprietary, swapping engines is NOT as simple as one might imagine.

Someone has done a retrofit of QDII to a QTII Commander on this forum, I would have thought the same thing would apply. BUT, if I remember his posts correctly, that although getting the electronics configured was a PIA, it was still doable and NOT prohibitive.

So, we really don't know, but it is something you should research and figure out before starting such a project, the retrofit of the electronic controls and then having to go through everything you'll need to have the dealer be able to configure the electronics for you, could make it impractical, if NOT, near impossible to do.

But, as far as I know, other than an engine swap, if you want a diesel Commander, you're going to have to find one overseas and go through the legal hassle of importing it personally. They did NOT make or sell any domestic diesel commanders.


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As far as Im aware, no one on the forum has done the swap yet.




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But it would be easy to swap a 3.0L CRD Diesel from a Grand Cherokee to a Commander if you were to find one at a junk yard with rear end damage. Especially if it had everything there already.. ie. motor, transmission, transfer case, wiring harness, PCM/ECM........etc.




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I don't believe the Libby ever had the 3.0 MB diesel.
You are correct. I just looked it up, out of curiosity. The VM Motori 2.8 L straight-4 common rail turbodiesel, made in Italy, became available in CRD branded 20052006 Sport and Limited models. The diesel utilized a variable geometry turbocharger and generated 160 horsepower (120 kW) and 295 lbft (400 Nm) of torque. The 2.8L VM Motori CRD was discontinued due to stricter 2007 United States diesel emission standards. Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, and California had already banned sale of the vehicle due to their rigid state emissions regulations. The 50-state legal 3.0L Mercedes-Benz OM642 engine was used in the Jeep Grand Cherokee from 2005-2008. So, the 3.0 CRD was available in the GC for four model years, throughout the whole country, so one should be available were you to go ahead and decide to do the conversion.
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Gentleman.

I have access to a 3.0 CRD Diesel that was in a Laredo and have access to as many parts as I need from a Laredo Diesel.

If I can't buy one I would like to install the 3.0 CRD Diesel in a 2006 Jeep Commander.

I'm not techical, but I have people who are. Has anyone done this?
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You are correct. I just looked it up, out of curiosity. The VM Motori 2.8 L straight-4 common rail turbodiesel, made in Italy, became available in CRD branded 20052006 Sport and Limited models. The diesel utilized a variable geometry turbocharger and generated 160 horsepower (120 kW) and 295 lbft (400 Nm) of torque. The 2.8L VM Motori CRD was discontinued due to stricter 2007 United States diesel emission standards. Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, and California had already banned sale of the vehicle due to their rigid state emissions regulations. The 50-state legal 3.0L Mercedes-Benz OM642 engine was used in the Jeep Grand Cherokee from 2005-2008. So, the 3.0 CRD was available in the GC for four model years, throughout the whole country, so one should be available were you to go ahead and decide to do the conversion.
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