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Travel trailer towing. I need some opinions.

I am contemplating the purchase of a travel trailer and would like some opinions from folks that are currently using 4.7l commanders for towing. This is the type of unit I am looking to purchase.http://www.coachmenrv.com/products/f...oorplanid=4150

How does the Commander behave when towing a 4,000 pound travel trailer such as the one from the link?

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I have a hemi so take what I have to say with a grain of salt. Mods include OME HD lift, monroe load leveler shocks (the longer f150's), 32" Goodyear ATs and superchips flashpaq.

I recently bought a 21 ft toy hauler, approx 5200 lbs empty. I towed it empty perfectly fine a couple hundred miles. Then I loaded it up for my cross country move and towed it to Phoenix (from LA area of CA) to wait for my wife to get back from deployment and it weighed in at about 7800 lbs which is over the rated weight (7200lbs) for the hemi. I did have to pull over once on a grade because the trans was overheating but now my flashpaq reads trans temp so I can monitor more closely, and I'm having an additional trans cooler installed. I'll also be losing some of the weight since my wife will be driving her minivan and we can offload some of the crap the movers wouldn't take into it..

I won't be starting the cross country move until the end of the month, but I'll try to report back then to give an update on how it's going. I can tell you that from CA to AZ I averaged about 7.5 mpgs, which is in part due to the larger tires. I'm going to experiment more with the flashpaq tunes and I think buy the trans app to see if I can squeeze a few more mpgs for the trip though.

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I have a hemi so take what I have to say with a grain of salt. Mods include OME HD lift, monroe load leveler shocks (the longer f150's), 32" Goodyear ATs and superchips flashpaq.

I recently bought a 21 ft toy hauler, approx 5200 lbs empty. I towed it empty perfectly fine a couple hundred miles. Then I loaded it up for my cross country move and towed it to Phoenix (from LA area of CA) to wait for my wife to get back from deployment and it weighed in at about 7800 lbs which is over the rated weight (7200lbs) for the hemi. I did have to pull over once on a grade because the trans was overheating but now my flashpaq reads trans temp so I can monitor more closely, and I'm having an additional trans cooler installed. I'll also be losing some of the weight since my wife will be driving her minivan and we can offload some of the crap the movers wouldn't take into it..

I won't be starting the cross country move until the end of the month, but I'll try to report back then to give an update on how it's going. I can tell you that from CA to AZ I averaged about 7.5 mpgs, which is in part due to the larger tires. I'm going to experiment more with the flashpaq tunes and I think buy the trans app to see if I can squeeze a few more mpgs for the trip though.

Thanks for the quick response hoaxci5. I hope the remainder of your trip goes well. You are towing almost twice what I am planning to so I am sure I will be fine with the 4.7L. I guess my only concern is where the trailer is 23-25 feet long that I may get trailer sway from the wind etc. How did your trailer behave in that regard?

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I'm pretty sure base weight means before a lot of the accessories go into the trailer, like heater/ac, batteries and propane tanks. So that 3800 lbs, might have just turned into 4300 lbs. Then add in water (if you are dry camping) and all your personal belongings and you could be up to 5000 lbs +

I have a weight distributing hitch which I think is required if it's over 3500 lbs. Along with a friction anti-sway device. I had a little sway on the trip, but it was manageable and I also believe it was due to poor loading on my part. It was easy with the toy hauler to load up the back end instead of distributing the weight through the trailer. I'll be addressing this problem before leaving Phoenix.
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I have a stock 2006 4.7 and pull a flaggstaff travel trailer weighing about 3000lbs and about 25ft long including tougue. It pulls greats and has never overheated. I have weight distribution and sway control. A brake controller is a must. I get about 10mg going 60 mph. I can go 70mph but I start crying at the mpg. I have also pulled my fathers trailer weighing about 45000lbs. It gets about 6-7 mpg going 60pmg. I doubt you would need any aftermarker mods, but they would not hurt. Hope this helps.

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I pull a Lance 2180,
http://www.lancecamper.com/2011/travel-trailers/2180/
pretty similar to your trailer. I do have the bigger engine. I have a generic weight distributing hitch, and notice some trailer sway at highway speeds. I think it is just because the Commander has such a short wheelbase. I want to upgrade my hitch to an equalizer or such.

Note: The trailer sway is never severe. I just have very little to compare it to. I either pull 4x8 utility trailers or 40' 5th wheels. Never pulled something similar to what I have now.

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I pull a Lance 2180,
http://www.lancecamper.com/2011/travel-trailers/2180/
pretty similar to your trailer. I do have the bigger engine. I have a generic weight distributing hitch, and notice some trailer sway at highway speeds. I think it is just because the Commander has such a short wheelbase. I want to upgrade my hitch to an equalizer or such.

Note: The trailer sway is never severe. I just have very little to compare it to. I either pull 4x8 utility trailers or 40' 5th wheels. Never pulled something similar to what I have now.

What is ur MPG?

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I have an '07 with the 4.7 V8 that tows my travel trailer, Keystone Passport 285RL. When I tow, weight comes in over 5,000 lbs. It is equipped with an equalizer system and of course electric brake hookup. I have towed up and down the east coast with no problems what so ever. Slight problem over a mountainous route I took once. I had to slow down behind 18 wheelers, which slightly ran my Commander in the hot. Over than that no problems. I think if I knew I was going to tow this weight, I might have gone for the Hemi. Hope this helps.

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Towing

I have a 2006 Jeep commander with the 4.7 V8. I have been towing a 25ft. travel trailer and have had no problems on flat land, but as soon as a nice hill comes in the picture I have issues. I now have a leak in my rear differential on the shaft side. Has anyone else had this problem? I have the equalizer tow hitch and I do not have any sway issues LOVE IT!!

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