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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-21-2007, 11:45 PM Thread Starter
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Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

From Edmunds inside line..


Chrysler Group To Rev Up Push Into Hybrid and Clean-Diesel Technology
Date posted: 06-21-2007


CHELSEA, Michigan — The Chrysler Group, which has been lagging behind competitors in the race for the most fuel-efficient vehicles, on Thursday laid out an ambitious program targeted at getting more diesels and hybrids to market in a hurry.

While vague on some details, the automaker indicated that 2009 will be a critical model year, with the rollout of a Jeep Grand Cherokee Bluetec with a clean-diesel engine and the debut of a "significantly upgraded version of the 5.7-liter Hemi V8, resulting in notable gains in fuel efficiency."

The vague parts of the announcement included the assertion that "within the next few years, Chrysler will offer a mild-hybrid powertrain in a Chrysler Group vehicle." The company also said its two-mode hybrid program will expand beyond the Chrysler Aspen Hybrid and Dodge Durango Hybrid, both of which debut next year. But specifics weren't given on which vehicles will get the two-mode hybrid.

The new Phoenix family of V6 engines will get a multi-displacement system. The engine will operate on three cylinders when less power is needed and in V6 mode when more power is required. The automaker said the system will result in a fuel economy gain of 6-8 percent. A new 4.7-liter V8 will get a 5 percent fuel economy improvement with up to 75 more horses and 35 more pound-feet of torque.

Chrysler Group said it will take the new common-axle technology now featured in the Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and move it to other Chrysler Group vehicles, for gains in fuel economy.

The announcement was significant in that it gave outsiders a penetrating look into Chrysler's future product plans, a tactic that is usually scrupulously avoided by automakers. The Detroit automaker said it is "exploring additional penetration of its 3.0-liter V6 common-rail diesel engine — currently in the 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee — and the possibility of a four-cylinder diesel engine for the North American market."

"We have developed and are implementing a series of major initiatives — including a bigger push in hybrid and clean-diesel technology — to meet the needs of American consumers," said Frank Klegon, Chrysler Group's executive vice president of product development.

What this means to you: Fuel economy is the mantra at Chrysler headquarters these days, which should make you happier at the pump in the coming years.
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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

Does happier at the pump equal just as happy on the road?

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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

Chrysler Group, if you want sales to skyrocket, here is a solution... find out what makes the European Honda Accord diesel engine so efficient.

Build a new, super-clean diesel engine in 4, 6, and 8 cylinder versions using what you learned. Give the option to strap it to either the twin mode hybrid system that will be coming in the Aspen and Durango or to a hydraulic hybrid system like the one the EPA and Ford have tested.

Now, your vehicles will be pushing between 40mpg and 70mpg depending on configuration and vehicle size and you can make that silly little Prius look like a gas guzzler. Make sure you patent everything that you come up with. Then if you really want to be mean go to the government and push for higher CAFE standards to match your new vehicle lineup's fuel economy. That will make your competitors wince in pain.
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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

So to answer the thread question, no better fuel efficiency is not in our future, unless we're willing to take a huge loss and trade in. Imagine how much gasoline we can buy with the depreciation hit we'd have to take....
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Does happier at the pump equal just as happy on the road?
I love my Hemi but would be super happy with better mileage.
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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

6%-8% improvement by 09, by then gas prices might be up by the same percentage. I think we won't see any significant improvement in our lifetime.
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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

Yeah, but the government is working this so you know it'll happen soon, especially since their plan is to regulate the market, make gas go to $6/gallon and force us all to drive hybrids or take the bus everywhere.

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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

I must have missed that plan announcement. I thought it was a secret.
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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

Just passed the Senate last night, going to the House next. The automakers got screwed by some senators that caved in after supporting the automakers for years. Goodbye power and performance, hello tin cans.

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Re: Is better fuel efficiency in our future?

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Just passed the Senate last night, going to the House next. The automakers got screwed by some senators that caved in after supporting the automakers for years. Goodbye power and performance, hello tin cans.
Guess I'll be holding on to the Commander with both hands, then. I don't want a 2009 Aries K or a 2010 Datsun B210...

I just had a flashback to 1975 when the Corvette had - what? - 165HP. Can't hardly wait for the new batch of cars after this legislation passes!

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