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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-08-2015, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
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The front passenger strut blew a couple weeks ago at 94 k. I'll be ordering the Bilsteins 5100 for the front and 4600 for the rear next week. . Bought the Rough Country lift years ago and will finally install that as well. Just waiting for the weather to warm up. I know me and the nephew will be rolling around on the concrete for awhile, not looking forward to this. I'll also go to jeep and get the lower bolts for the struts, just in case, this rigs been through 9 snowy, icy, salty winters. Looking forward to getting bigger tires, but not sure which ones. Probably something not aggressive, dont really 4 wheel where i'd need them.
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Start hitting that bolt with PB now like twice a day.


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Concur with the PB Blaster ahead of time. It really does make a difference if you keep doing it twice a day for several days ahead of time. But, judging from some of the stories about that bolt, it might NOT be enough, regardless its worth the try.
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I've been, and will continue to saturate the bolts til the party starts. Im hoping that we don't damage anything thing else trying to remove them.
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Get 5100's for the rear as well. You need a longer rear shock for that lift.

In fact I would seriously consider going with 4600HD front and 5100 rear. 5100 struts in the front with RC lift would leave you nose high.
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oh...so the rc lift levels the ride, correct? i guess thats why the 5100's would leave the front higher since they give you close to an inch lift. Couldn't i use the 4600 front and rear then?
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oh...so the rc lift levels the ride, correct? i guess thats why the 5100's would leave the front higher since they give you close to an inch lift. Couldn't i use the 4600 front and rear then?
You need a longer rear shock. 4600 is stock length.
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You need a longer rear shock. 4600 is stock length.
The thing that limits the rebound of the rear suspension, is the shock. Raising it with a puck under the spring, just trades rebound for jounce.

Correct me if I'm wrong, the thing is, the 5100/4600 are the same thing for the rear, its just that the 5100 is longer. You raised the rear suspension, so the suspension needs to go lower to get the same wheel travel, so if you use the 4600, which will work, but you've decreased the suspension ability from stock, going with the 5100 you've increased the suspension ability.

If you're just doing it for looks and won't be doing any off roading serious enough to hit the limits of suspension travel, its likely NOT going to make a difference.

The front suspension is different, the same thing doesn't apply. Since the front 5100 has a adjustable spring perch that at its lowest setting is 3/4"-1" higher than stock, combined with the lift block will make the front higher than you would want, so you need to use the 4600 to avoid that.

Someone more familiar with Lifts would have to chime in, I'm NOT sure what limits the rebound of the front suspension, so a longer shock might NOT be any advantage for a lift in the front of the Commander. Regardless, the 5100 itself will increase the front lift and with a lift kit, it will now go from being rear high to front high and NOT level.

Like stated before the 5100 and 4600 are the same performance, so mixing them front/rear should NOT be a problem.
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Thanks for the input gents. I'm in touch with the vendor and the dealership for the bolts are the spring isolator, just in case. Need some dry weather now...
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What is the part number for the 5100 shocks.
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