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Im going to go out on a limb and say that it has to do with the type of quadratrack system you have underneath. If its a full time 4WD QT1, maybe not trail rated, but if a higher (newer) generation of QT that can switch into 4Lo, then maybe thats the distinction between TR and non-TR
For those that are somewhat new to the world of Commanders, here in the U.S. there are 3 things your Commander has to have to be designated as Trail-Rated from the factory;

1) An 8 cylinder engine - either the 4.7L V-8 or 5.7L Hemi V-8;

2) The Quadra-Trac II or Quadra Drive II 4WD system; meaning you have the NV245 two speed transfer case with the ability to drop down into 4-LOW.

3) At least 3.73 gearing or higher in the rear end - this is the one factor that most people are not aware of and often overlook.

Now bare in mind - ANYBODY can order Trail-Rated emblems from the dealership (or from e-bay for that matter) and stick them on - but that doesn't mean that your Commander has been Trail-Rated by Jeep;

You have to have some combination of all 3 things I mentioned above to get Chrysler/Jeep's Trail-Rated designation/emblem from the factory.

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You have to have some combination of the 3 things I mentioned above to get Chrysler/Jeep's Trail-Rated designation/emblem from the factory.
Some combination, such as 1 + 2? Mines a Hemi 5.7l with QDII. Not sure on gearing or even how to figure that out.
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here in the U.S
Ignore me, didn't realise it was different in the US / UK.
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Some combination, such as 1 + 2? Mines a Hemi 5.7l with QDII. Not sure on gearing or even how to figure that out.
@lafwud; It would be listed on your factory build sheet....in the U.S. we can obtain our factory build sheets by entering our VIN in the link below, I'm not sure if it's the same for the European XK/H models.....

https://fcacommunity.force.com/RAM/s/equipment-listing


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Thanks, those don't seem to work for UK models.

I did find: https://owners.mopar.eu/jeep/jeep-uk...onfirm-vehicle but this seems broke
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That does work actually. So gearing is 3.73
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Thanks, those don't seem to work for UK models.

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That does work actually. So gearing is 3.73
Awesome, I'm glad I could help you find the answer.

Every so often, I test these website hyperlinks, to make sure they still work - and I guess I haven't done it in a while;

Of the 2 hyperlinks I posted originally, on the first link they've apparently changed the main website page's menu tabs;

The second link - the site was down for maintenance (which happens from time to time)

So, I actually went back to the first link and had to poke around until I found the right path to get to the factory build sheet option, at which point, I reposted the link that actually worked for you.

Now I have to update it in the New Member's Required Reading Sticky thread.


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So from what I can find, 2010 Commanders that came from the factory with the 18" wheels did not get the Trail rated badge. Exact same spec'ed Commander with 17" wheels did. Just an observation, not hard facts. I compared build sheets of 2010 commanders from Autotrader. My Commander has a trail rated badge but it's not listed on the build sheet. My specs, 5.7L V8, QD-II, 3.73 gears. Incomplete build sheet or aftermarket badge, doesn't matter now, it's is trail ready even if not officially rated.

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So from what I can find, 2010 Commanders that came from the factory with the 18" wheels did not get the Trail rated badge. Exact same spec'ed Commander with 17" wheels did. Just an observation, not hard facts. I compared build sheets of 2010 commanders from Autotrader. My Commander has a trail rated badge but it's not listed on the build sheet. My specs, 5.7L V8, QD-II, 3.73 gears. Incomplete build sheet or aftermarket badge, doesn't matter now, it's is trail ready even if not officially rated.
That's a trail-rated XK all day long.

I know during the 2010 model year, Jeep did a few subtle things different; it could just be that they stopped listing trail-rated on the build sheet.


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I saw a Jeep Commander the other day and it was 4x4 and everything. Then I noticed it did not have the trail rated badge and wanted to know what makes some commander 4x4s trail rated and others not?
A sticker. Without that sticker you are taking your life and jeep into your own hands and Jeep will not be held responsible.
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