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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-30-2018, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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I stepped down from the Commander

I really did like the Jeep, but getting more DJ gigs 12-13 mpg
wasn't cutting it anymore.



A 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk V6 took it's place. My wife
had just gotten a Cherokee Latitude Plus, 2.4L, AD1 4x4 and
it bit me as well!


Goodbye old friend!









Welcome home!














I enjoyed this forum, and learned a lot about the XK.

2006 XK, 4.7, QT2, Limited, Loaded, Stock, the family truckster. (Sold)

1999 XJ, 4.0, AW4, 4x4, 3" OME lift, 31" Destination M/T's, Quick discos, SYE hack and tap. (sold)

2014 MK (Patriot) Stock, 4wd Freedom Drive 1, 2.4L, 6-Speed auto, the gas getter. (Sold)

2018 - Latitude Plus - 2.4 - AD1 - 8.4A Nav 3C

2019 - Trailhawk - V6 - 8.4 Nav 4C - Cold Package -
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I really did like the Jeep, but getting more DJ gigs 12-13 mpg
wasn't cutting it anymore.

A 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk V6 took it's place. My wife
had just gotten a Cherokee Latitude Plus, 2.4L, AD1 4x4 and
it bit me as well!

Goodbye old friend!

I enjoyed this forum, and learned a lot about the XK.
Yep, you said it right;

You definitely stepped down in terms of 4WD capability; a Cherokee Trailhawk & Cherokee Latitude Plus isn't going to carry a Commander's jock-strap in terms of off-road ability & capability. Not to mention that they are just tiny.

I understand the gas mileage thing if you are doing tons of driving, but, with the money you spent on those two new vehicles, you could have put fuel in your XK for the rest of your life, paid for any repairs it might have needed down the road - and still had change left over. So in reality, your gas mileage reasoning really doesn't hold water, looking at how much money you just spent.

But I understand, sometimes it's just time to get something new....best of luck with them.


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Well talking stock for stock, I now have a rear locker, more
ground clearance, full skids under, recovery front and rear,
and MaxCare Lifetime on both. MPG wasn't the only reason,
it was an 06 and I wanted something new. The A/C started
blowing warm, and it's just not a road I wanted to go down.
The DID is way better than the EVIC, with all the info you
could ask for. Just love the new Trailhawk.



I loved the XK, but no regrets. LOL We traded up from the
Patriot to the Lat +.


My next Jeep will be the one I never should have never gotten rid of..

It will be the dedicated trail rig...




2006 XK, 4.7, QT2, Limited, Loaded, Stock, the family truckster. (Sold)

1999 XJ, 4.0, AW4, 4x4, 3" OME lift, 31" Destination M/T's, Quick discos, SYE hack and tap. (sold)

2014 MK (Patriot) Stock, 4wd Freedom Drive 1, 2.4L, 6-Speed auto, the gas getter. (Sold)

2018 - Latitude Plus - 2.4 - AD1 - 8.4A Nav 3C

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Well talking stock for stock, I now have a rear locker, more
ground clearance, full skids under, recovery front and rear,
and MaxCare Lifetime on both. MPG wasn't the only reason,
it was an 06 and I wanted something new. The A/C started
blowing warm, and it's just not a road I wanted to go down.
The DID is way better than the EVIC, with all the info you
could ask for. Just love the new Trailhawk.

I loved the XK, but no regrets. LOL We traded up from the
Patriot to the Lat +.

My next Jeep will be the one I never should have never gotten rid of..

It will be the dedicated trail rig...
Well anybody who has had a Commander for any length of time, knows all too well that Jeep screwed the pooch with how they set Commanders up to roll off of the assembly line, a big heavy SUV that was too low to the ground, with tires that were to small. It sounds like they learned from those mistakes with the newer lines of SUV's they are putting out now.

With that in mind, it does not surprise me that the Trail Hawk has those improvements that you mentioned right off of the assembly line. Now that being said, I'd take a properly set up Commander over your 2 newer vehicles any day of the week & twice on Sunday.

As far as the trail rig you said you want to get, I had a Silver 95 Cherokee SE with the 4.0L straight 6 (which was actually my very first Jeep), but, it was only a 2WD....good SUV though, extremely reliable, I had about 220,000 miles on it when I traded it in and it still ran pretty well.
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XJ99 - do you mind giving a more in-depth review of the new Cherokee. What are the pros and cons of the two you own? Differences in power between 4 and 6cyl. , Mpg, trim, off-road ? How does it compare to other heros you have owned?

My wife has the original liberty from 2002 and loves it, and it is still in great shape, but my son needs a car and my wife is more than due for an upgrade.

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Sorry Thance, I had all your questions answered then lost
it all when I went to post some pics. I'll get back to you in

a bit, gotta run some errands.

2006 XK, 4.7, QT2, Limited, Loaded, Stock, the family truckster. (Sold)

1999 XJ, 4.0, AW4, 4x4, 3" OME lift, 31" Destination M/T's, Quick discos, SYE hack and tap. (sold)

2014 MK (Patriot) Stock, 4wd Freedom Drive 1, 2.4L, 6-Speed auto, the gas getter. (Sold)

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XK: Biggest pro was room, 3rd row, (when needed) Autostick,
and it was well planted in the winter on snow and ice.


KL: 2019 they brought back Autostick, they had kind of an AS
in the previous years, but they wouldn't allow a forced up-shifts.
MPG's Trailhawk EPA is rated at 18/24. Real world have been
21/28 (heard of people getting 30) with the V6. The 2.4L gets
slightly better in town. The 2.4L is okay, and meets my wife's
needs as a commuter, but the V6 is the way to go. Both come
standard with backup cameras, 8.4" Uconnect screens. NAV
is optional, and is nice to see turn by turn in the DID/EVIC.
2018 is the only model that has HID headlights, 2019 went
to LED. Previous years were halogen. (not so good) DID vs
EVIC? DID looks different, BUT both offer the same info.
Both have Passive entry, the key fob stays in my pocket.
The Uconnect 4C has Apple Car Play, and Android. (2019)
The 2018 has the 3C. The 2019 TH has accent lighting, (lights
up the ground at night) Blinkers in the mirrors, rear park
assist, (will apply the brakes before backing into something)
Blind spot detection. This will all be standard equipment on
the Lat + 2019 models. The 2019 doesn't have the SD card
reader, but has 4 USB ports. (3 will connect with Uconnect)
One up front, one in the center, (where I keep a thumb drive)
and two in the back. Also,the 2019 offers a 2.0 Turbo but it
comes at a cost, and it israted to tow 4,000, instead of 4,500
with the V6. Both get about the same mileage, but the 2.0T
has a bit more torque. Oh, the V6 comes with ESS which kills
the engine when you come to a complete stop. I HATE this
feature, and it can be disabled via a button on the dash.




Off road, the Trailhawk is the way to go for all the reasons
listed above. The Lat + sits lower, and has smaller tires.


I liked the XJ as it was easy to mod, had solid axles, and
the bullet proof straight 6 with the AW4 combo.


I like the XK because of all the extra room you get.


I like the KL for the extra features it has, and after driving
my wife's I got hooked. Has plenty of room for my DJ gear,
and 2 kids.



If it weren't for the A/C I probably would still be driving the
XK. That's what really pushed me into the Trailhawk.



I hope I covered everything? I've never had a Jeep I didn't like...



DID:











EVIC:

















Everything is now controlled through Uconnect, under settings.



Also today I discovered bread crumb trail in the NAV (2019) called Trails.








I got my 2019 with the trade in for around $30k. Plus I got them
to throw in the hitch, and harness for free, and the MaxCare Lifetime
for $1,000. (So $31K) Original price MSRP was almost $39k.


Really the only thing I want to do is lift and tires....

2006 XK, 4.7, QT2, Limited, Loaded, Stock, the family truckster. (Sold)

1999 XJ, 4.0, AW4, 4x4, 3" OME lift, 31" Destination M/T's, Quick discos, SYE hack and tap. (sold)

2014 MK (Patriot) Stock, 4wd Freedom Drive 1, 2.4L, 6-Speed auto, the gas getter. (Sold)

2018 - Latitude Plus - 2.4 - AD1 - 8.4A Nav 3C

2019 - Trailhawk - V6 - 8.4 Nav 4C - Cold Package -
Lifetime Maxcare on Both!

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That was great info and I really appreciate you taking the time to put it all together.

Thank you!
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That was great info and I really appreciate you taking the time to put it all together.

Thank you!



You got it man!

2006 XK, 4.7, QT2, Limited, Loaded, Stock, the family truckster. (Sold)

1999 XJ, 4.0, AW4, 4x4, 3" OME lift, 31" Destination M/T's, Quick discos, SYE hack and tap. (sold)

2014 MK (Patriot) Stock, 4wd Freedom Drive 1, 2.4L, 6-Speed auto, the gas getter. (Sold)

2018 - Latitude Plus - 2.4 - AD1 - 8.4A Nav 3C

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