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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-28-2008, 07:26 PM Thread Starter
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Ha ha ... I think I just got a "sign"

So, the not 48 hours after I go see the Commander, fall in love, then decide not to get it ... my Wrangler goes on the fritz. Divine Intervention? Jealousy? What could it be?

I tried to start it up today, and there is tons of power, all lights, gauges, radio, etc are full go, and the engine will turn over normally, but will not start up. My bf seems to think it's not getting gas, but later he said he saw gas through the injector. We tried starter fluid, but no go.

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Alanna ( I wonder if the Commander is still there)
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Well, you need gas, spark and air. If you've got gas, have bf check for spark. If he doesn't know how, you pull one spark plug, reconnect the spark plug wire, place the plug against a metal part of the engine so that the metal part of the plug touches the engine in order to make contact, turn the engine a few cranks while you watch for spark arcing.
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This is the third time I have posted this and it shows it ad then it disappears. i hope it sticks this time

Be careful not to ground the plug near the hole where the plug came out. If it all decides to work you coulf get a flash back from the vapors coming out of the spark plug hole.
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Another possibility is the timing belt. Is it a 4.0 inline six cylinder. There is also a sensor that controls the timing that could be bad. As you were told the first thing to check is gas and spark. Losing your timing will give you the condition that you have described.

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Maybe the two will meet up soon edit: they did , I now have 2,now gave 1 away...and got it back again.
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No timing belt on 4.0
Uses a chain. This is a pushrod six.
Have seen many cam sensor failures, i.e. no spark.
This is a rather old design. Uses a single coil, old style cap rotor, etc.
Just pull coil wire from dist cap and hold close to block and crank engine. No plug removal required.
If it has spark, remove dist cap and crank-you are making certain the rotor is turning.
If rotor turns and spark is present, most likely failure is cracked rotor(grounding through dist shaft, almost invisible crack) or cracked dist cap(crack running from coil terminal to base of cap)

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Wanna

Contrary to popular opinion, well, maybe not, but I think it is a sign. The sign you were waiting for, to make the change.

Buying the commander is not necessarily a wise investment decision, but a wanna. It is about the wanna. Buying a commander was not the best investment decision many of us made. It is not an investment, it is an expense.

So if your making the decision to spend money on your vehicle, then you are going to follow the wanna.

There are lots of Commanders out there, lots of options. I think you have already decided to buy one, so look carefully. Find a dealer with a good reputation (if it exists). No, they exist, take your time. Then plunge right in! But a used commander may be best due to lower cost and issues already resloved.

Oh, if you have not already done so, get a 30 day susbscription to car fax or see if you library has one you can use. Get the vin number and run it.

Good luck and best wishes.
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Just give up. And go buy the Commander.
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I got the "sign" a little over a month ago when my 4.0 Jeep GC's tranny started to slip real bad. Started looking at the Commanders. Then the gas pedal got stuck due to the transmission cable. Got it un-stuck by rocking back and fourth, drove it to McDonald's last week and the Transmission started smoking like a coal burning train. Had her 12 years and she has served us well but I cannot see spending more to fix her than she is worth. Good luck with your decision.
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