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Rear fog lights, anyone?

This past weekend Jersey saw a lot of warm air, therefore, dense fog after all the cold we had the previous week. I got to thinking that it might be a good idea to have some red rear fog lights the way many European cars do. For those who are unfamiliar, many European cars have red fog lights in the back that shine with approximately the same intensity as the lights when you step on the brakes. In the US you may see these on Audis, Mercedes, Volvos, and the like. I can say from first-hand experience, that it is much easier to see the car ahead of you in dense fog if it has these lights.

So, has anyone thought about these or looked into them? I was thinking they could go on either side of the license plate. I saw some inexpensive round LED lights on eBay, but I don't know how big they are.

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This is how the rear fog lights look in my XH (international model)

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/g...pound30304.flv

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I am a big fan of rear fog lights (I am originally from Scotland and we get plenty of Fog there!). However, the problem here in the US is, that people here drive with their front fog lights on a lot of the time as 'driving' lights.

They pull/twist/push (delete as applicable) the foglight switch to turn them on and then leave them like that for the life of the vehicle.

Then they step into their new Audi or BMW with rear foglights, and twist the fog lights to 'on'. Well the Audi and BMW have 2 steps to the foglight 'on', the second step turns on the rear foglights. Well these people who haven't had rear foglights before, set the switch to position 2, and have their rear foglights on all the time.

There is an Audi A6 that drives around here all the time with his rear fogs on and it annoys the [email protected] outta me! This isn't an issue in the UK, as it it illegal to drive around with your front driving/fog lights on if there is no fog. And I should know, I got ticketed for it! 'Excessive use of lighting' was what I was written up for. At the time all I could think of was 'hmmm, getting written up and fined by the police, for being TOO VISIBLE on the road...!!!'. But the law is the law!

However, to answer the OPs question, it would be cool to have them on the US spec XK, as I think they are a valuable safety feature.
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I have super bright LED tail lights, kinda does the same thing, and I actually mounted reflectors on the bumper right where the Euro versions have the foglights. I like how they look.
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I am a big fan of rear fog lights (I am originally from Scotland and we get plenty of Fog there!). However, the problem here in the US is, that people here drive with their front fog lights on a lot of the time as 'driving' lights.

They pull/twist/push (delete as applicable) the foglight switch to turn them on and then leave them like that for the life of the vehicle.

Then they step into their new Audi or BMW with rear foglights, and twist the fog lights to 'on'. Well the Audi and BMW have 2 steps to the foglight 'on', the second step turns on the rear foglights. Well these people who haven't had rear foglights before, set the switch to position 2, and have their rear foglights on all the time.

There is an Audi A6 that drives around here all the time with his rear fogs on and it annoys the [email protected] outta me! This isn't an issue in the UK, as it it illegal to drive around with your front driving/fog lights on if there is no fog. And I should know, I got ticketed for it! 'Excessive use of lighting' was what I was written up for. At the time all I could think of was 'hmmm, getting written up and fined by the police, for being TOO VISIBLE on the road...!!!'. But the law is the law!

However, to answer the OPs question, it would be cool to have them on the US spec XK, as I think they are a valuable safety feature.
Yeah, I see those people with the rear lights on all the time, too.

I'm not entirely surprised to hear you were fined for having those lights on. I understand that in Germany they are even stricter concerning the use of lights, especially hazards.

I think it would be great if the US XK had them built in as in the XH. However, in my original post I was contemplating adding on some extra lights and wondering if anyone else has done it or has looked into it.
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I have super bright LED tail lights, kinda does the same thing, and I actually mounted reflectors on the bumper right where the Euro versions have the foglights. I like how they look.
Those bright LEDs might be great while you're on the brakes, but the point behind the red fog lights in the back are so that you are more visible in poor weather conditions to other drivers, even when you are not braking.
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I had thought of doing the same thing. I imagine if I get a set of boat trailer lights and wire them in so they are on only when the front fog lights are on. These are the ones I had planned to use http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...ND-V420KR3.jpg They could be wired to work in "brake" mode when they are on so they will be as bright as possible and they are LED.

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This is how the rear fog lights look in my XH (international model)
I really like the signal markers on the fenders. I may have to look into doing that as well.

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I really like the signal markers on the fenders. I may have to look into doing that as well.
This should be very easy and not expensive too, go for it
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Those bright LEDs might be great while you're on the brakes, but the point behind the red fog lights in the back are so that you are more visible in poor weather conditions to other drivers, even when you are not braking.
ummmm. Yes, I know...... The TAIL lights are LED's and 2x as bright as the normal bulb and are on when you turn your lights on, thus doing the same thing effectively as the rear fog lights. Brake lights are LED's as well, and aer also at least 2X as bright as normal.
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