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Hi all,


While I was under my Commander working on replacing my oxygen sensors, I noticed grease leaking around the seal that connects the front drive shaft to the transfer case. After wiping up the grease, sure enough there is a small tear in the boot.



1. Would this be the Input Shaft Seal - Mopar (5143714AA)?
2. Any chance its covered by the lime time power train warranty?


Thanks


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Hi all,


While I was under my Commander working on replacing my oxygen sensors, I noticed grease leaking around the seal that connects the front drive shaft to the transfer case. After wiping up the grease, sure enough there is a small tear in the boot.



1. Would this be the Input Shaft Seal - Mopar (5143714AA)?
2. Any chance its covered by the lime time power train warranty?


Thanks


Mark
If it was grease (not transmission fluid) then it is coming from the front CV joint on that driveshaft.

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If it was grease (not transmission fluid) then it is coming from the front CV joint on that driveshaft.

It's definitely grease but its not the front of the driveshaft. I can actually feel a small tear in the rubber right before it enters the transfer case.

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Let me clarify, the QT-1 transfer case (NV140) uses ATF+4 (transmission fluid). So if it is the transfer case shaft seal that is leaking, 5143714AA is the correct part.

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Let me clarify, the QT-1 transfer case (NV140) uses ATF+4 (transmission fluid). So if it is the transfer case shaft seal that is leaking, 5143714AA is the correct part.

I found someone else had posted the same thing on this forum back in 2009. https://www.jeepcommander.com/forums...t-leaking.html.


From what he said, he had to have the whole driveshaft replaced as they dont just have a separate seal. Its not ATF but black grease. The attached picture is from his post but identical problem.
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The CV joint boot on my front driveshaft went bad awhile ago (transfer case side) and I rebuilt it with this kit. https://www.amazon.com/APDTY-Propell...s%2C247&sr=8-7 The most difficult part was getting the driveshaft off the jeep.

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I'd say the lifetime drivetrain warranty should cover it, talk to the dealer. I had the front Diff bushings and water pump covered under the warranty. It covers a lot of things.

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The CV joint boot on my front driveshaft went bad awhile ago (transfer case side) and I rebuilt it with this kit. https://www.amazon.com/APDTY-Propell...s%2C247&sr=8-7 The most difficult part was getting the driveshaft off the jeep.

Okay thanks. After going back and forth about it I now realize that is it part of the driveshaft before it enters the transfer case.

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I'd say the lifetime drivetrain warranty should cover it, talk to the dealer. I had the front Diff bushings and water pump covered under the warranty. It covers a lot of things.

I certainly hope so. It covered my water pump as well. Is there documentation on what exactly is covered anywhere. I'll have to look through my owner's manual and related paperwork.


I found what is covered:



Parts Covered
The Lifetime Powertrain Limited Warranty covers these parts and components of your vehicle’s powertrain supplied by DaimlerChrysler Motors
Company LLC:
Gasoline Engine: cylinder block and all internal parts; cylinder head assemblies; timing case, timing chain, timing belt, gears and sprockets; vibration
damper; oil pump; water pump and housing; intake and exhaust manifolds; flywheel with starter ring gear; core plugs; valve covers; oil pan; turbocharger
housing and internal parts; turbocharger wastegate actuator; supercharger; serpentine belt tensioner; seals and gaskets for listed components only.
Transmission: transmission case and all internal parts; torque converter; drive/flex plate; transmission range switch; transmission control module; bell
housing; oil pan; seals and gaskets for listed components only. NOTE: MANUAL TRANSMISSION CLUTCH PARTS ARE NOT COVERED AT ANY
TIME.
Front Wheel Drive: transaxle case and all internal parts; axle shaft assemblies; constant velocity joints and boots; differential cover; oil pan; transaxle
speed sensors; transaxle solenoid assembly; PRNDL position switch; transaxle electronic controller; torque converter; seals and gaskets for listed
components only. NOTE: MANUAL TRANSMISSION CLUTCH PARTS ARE NOT COVERED AT ANY TIME.
All Wheel Drive (AWD): power transfer unit and all internal parts; viscous coupler; axle housing and all internal parts; constant velocity joints and boots;
driveshaft and axle shaft assemblies; differential carrier assembly and all internal parts; output ball bearing; output flange; end cover; overrunning clutch;
vacuum motor; torque tube; pinion spacer and shim, seals and gaskets for listed components only.
Rear Wheel Drive: rear axle housing and all internal parts; axle shafts; axle shaft bearings; drive shaft assemblies; drive shaft center bearings; universal
joints and yokes; seals and gaskets for listed components only.
Four-Wheel Drive (4X4): transfer case and all internal parts; transfer case control module and shift mode motor assembly; axle housing and all internal
parts; axle shafts; axle shaft bearings; drive shafts assemblies (front and rear); drive shaft center bearings; universal joints and yokes; disconnect housing
assembly; seals and gaskets for the listed components only.

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Speaking of life time warrenty, how do I know if mine is still covered? Is this for original owner only?
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