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Will the Michelin LTX A/T 245/70R17 fit on a non-lifted commander with no rubbing? Also can I assume if I get a 2 inch lift that a Michelin LTX A/T 245/75R17 will fit with no rubbing? I have been a Land Rover guy for the past 7 years, a couple of Disco's and an LR3. I do a lot of wheelin in my Land Rovers but just got a used 06 Limited Hemi Commander but my gut tells me that if don't get a lift and bigger tires I will be dragging my belly alot where as my LR3 I just raise the car via the air suspension. Besides the clearance it would seem the Quadrive II system will perform just as well as the LR3 4x4 system ( I will miss the HDC though). I do love the HEMI, my wife and I had a drag race and the Commander HEMI won the race vs. my V8 LR3.
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...it would seem the Quadrive II system will perform just as well as the LR3 4x4 system
Better.
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Besides the clearance it would seem the Quadrive II system will perform just as well as the LR3 4x4 system ( I will miss the HDC though).

The QDII is the top-of-the-line 4wd system that they offer on the Commander. The LR3 has an incredibly complex and capable 4wd system, as I'm sure you know that already. IMO, the LR3 4wd system is more capable, but I don't have any real world experience to back that up, so I don't want to say it would be better, but it does have more capabilities on paper if you compare the tech specs.

How was the reliability on your Disco and your LR3? I've always really like both vehicles (especially when they came out with the LR3), but so many people have horror stories to tell with regards to breaking down and mechanical/electrical issues. My cousin got an LR3 a few months back and he's already had it back to the dealer a few times. How has yours been?
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I seriously doubt the jeep quad II system will exceed the LR3, equal probably. My LR3 has the electronic rear locker and it still amazes even the lifted/locked Land Rover crowd and it still has the 19 inch street tires. I doubt any vehicle off the show room floor (non-modified) can exceed the LR3 due to its 4x4 system and cross linked air suspension. With that being said you cannot put a 4 inch lift and 33 inch tires on a LR3 therefore you are limited on the upside for those 5 % of trails the LR3 will never tackle. How durable has been my LR3..well 53,000 later it has been flawless unlike my Diso II that has 160,000 miles on it.
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I know nothing about the LR3 4WD System so I cant comment on it but I was just curious if you were aware that the Commander has front and rear electronic limited slip differentials.




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Yes they go from fully open to fully locked

That is the key reason I purchased the Commander along with Hemi. Technically I would like to understand how the eletconic locker in the LR3 differs from the ELSD in the jeep (the LR3 uses traction control solely in the front)

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IMO, the LR3 4wd system is more capable, but I don't have any real world experience to back that up, so I don't want to say it would be better, but it does have more capabilities on paper if you compare the tech specs.
On paper doesn't count and won't get you out of a tough situation.

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On paper doesn't count and won't get you out of a tough situation.
Yeah, but the difference between you and me is that you seem to think that QDII is superior to any/every other system out there, without having experienced the other 4wd systems. For you to say that a QDII Commander has a better 4wd system than an LR3 is pretty much ridiculous. I'm guessing that you don't have any of your own real world experience driving an LR3 in various offroad situations, so what is your basis for saying that the QDII Commander has a better 4wd system?

I base my opinion on real world experiences when I can (such as the Commander vs. the 4Runner) and when I can't base them on real world experiences, I turn to things like specs and possibly even videos on the Internet. I know that the LR3 4wd system is very stout and I've seen stock LR3s do some truly amazing things on various different videos.

You know what gets you out of tough situations? I'll tell ya... a very capable 4wd system and a good set of tires for the conditions. The fact that the LR3 has a rear locker and air suspension says a lot about it's capabilities. The Commander is also capable for sure, but it doesn't have nearly the ground clearance of the LR3 and the lack of a true rear locker doesn't help it either when compared with an LR3.
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How durable has been my LR3..well 53,000 later it has been flawless unlike my Diso II that has 160,000 miles on it.

Flawless as in never once had to go to the dealer for any type of repair or issue at all? If so, that's pretty incredible.
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