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Old Man Emu Lift -- MD or HD?

I have a 2007 Commander Sport 3.7 QT1 that is my daily driver. It now has 115,000 miles on it and needs a new suspension. Rather than just go replacing with stock struts, shocks, and springs; I am thinking it is time for a lift.....I will be due for new tires by this fall anyway.

So, I have pretty much settled on getting an Old Man Emu (OME) suspension lift, but am stumped if I should go with the HD or the MD option. This XK is my daily driver (about 35,000 miles a year) and gets me from trout stream to trout stream towing my drift boat and a couple of buddies with our gear. I won't do much wheelin' in it other than getting the boat down to the river on two-tracks and forest service trails, but want to be somewhat off-road capable (had a couple of times last year where i didn't have the clearance and would have appreciated some rails).

So with all of that background, could you help a brother out with the following questions:

1. HD or MD OME Lift for a 3.7 QT1 XK?

2. Recommendations for a good all-terrain tire for highway use?

3. At this point, I am going to stick with the stock wheels, what size tire would you recommend with this lift?

4. Should I upgrade the Upper Control Arms while I am in there?
(If so, i was thinking of going with these Rocky Road UCA's...any thoughts?)

5. Will I need a trim package still to level my XK after the OME install?
(If so, I was thinking of this one)

6. Will I need to buy any additional items for the install such as a strut mounting kit?

Thanks for your help / input. This will be my first upgrade, so I am excited and nervous. Once i get this put on, if anyone is in the STL / Ozark area and wants to get together to test it out, drop me a PM.

--Matt Tucker

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OME HD for sure. While your at it replace the coil isolators front and rear (there are 8 total, 4 front 4 rear) as well as the front upper strut mounting plate. I bet your front sway bar end links are probably shot if you haven't replaced them yet. As far as a good AT tire Good Year Wrangler Duratrac and get some 1.25 wheel spacers! Would look awesome! If your getting new upper control arms get the new JBA UCAs




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Right on thanks for the quick response. I will put up some before and afters.
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Not a problem. I wouldn't steer you wrong. You will love your Jeep after those mods. 265/70R17's for the tire size or 245/75R17




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I just did the HD OME and it rides great.

Like 07JeepXK said, I had to replace Strut mounts and Isolaters.

They don't tell you that up front. Also you should replace the mounting bolts.
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Thanks for the responses 07JeepXk and cico7. Are wheel spacers that big of a deal? I really didn't want to put wheel spacers in or go with a ridiculous tire size (and effect the fuel economy i am getting....close to 18mpg), but wanted it to look beefy enough. Will i notice much of a difference in look going from stock and 245/65/r17's to an OME and 265/70/r17's or 245/75/r17's?
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If you are concerned about gas mileage, stop right there.
The lift and tire size individually will drop your mileage 2 or 3 MPG.
I average about 14....total avg. 15-18 Hwy only 10-12 City Only

You will need spacers if you go to 265 70's Wider stance looks better anyways.

Summer time I get better mileage than winter.

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Thanks for the responses 07JeepXk and cico7. Are wheel spacers that big of a deal? I really didn't want to put wheel spacers in or go with a ridiculous tire size (and effect the fuel economy i am getting....close to 18mpg), but wanted it to look beefy enough. Will i notice much of a difference in look going from stock and 245/65/r17's to an OME and 265/70/r17's or 245/75/r17's?
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Nah, not concerned with mpg....just more curious what the drop will be. Getting ready to order it now.
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Get the UCA's. I got the JBA's through 4X and they are red.
I say ok because I have nothing to compare them to.

I think Rough Country offers them for about $100 less. I dont know what the difference is, if any. But I was on a roll so I got them all at once.

Using the HD parts will give you about 3" of lift. From the center of the hub to the bottom of the fender is 22"
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I too average 14.1 mpg but I'm running 33 inch mud tires on 17x8 steel wheels that are heavier than stock wheels. I don't mind getting that mpg because my jeep looks bada$$!! JBA is definitely the way to go for upper control arms if you don't mind spending that much money on them. I love mine and have had no issues with them and I even have the old version.




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