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Anyone know if the OEM shocks from a 2010 Commander would be the same fit for a 2008? Thanks
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Anyone know if the OEM shocks from a 2010 Commander would be the same fit for a 2008? Thanks
yup.


Why? I wouldn't bother installing used OEM shocks. My 2010's shocks were toast @ 100k
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yup.


Why? I wouldn't bother installing used OEM shocks. My 2010's shocks were toast @ 100k
I was thinking the same thing.


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No, they aren't used. Found a brand new set for the rear for a really good price. Was thinking about Bilstein but figured for the price I couldn't pass these up if they would fit.
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No, they aren't used. Found a brand new set for the rear for a really good price. Was thinking about Bilstein but figured for the price I couldn't pass these up if they would fit.
If budget is the driving factor, then I'd say go for it.

Now that being said, Bilstein HD 4600's or 5100's (depending on how much of a lift you have, if any) would still be an upgrade over new factory OEM shocks.
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What are the benefits of Bilstein over OEM or Gabriel or any other shock?
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What are the benefits of Bilstein over OEM or Gabriel or any other shock?
The biggest difference from what I understand is that Bilsteins use monotube technology and OEM shocks use twin tube technology.

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Bilstein is a well know name when it comes to shocks and performance vehicles, but they don't stop there. They make many different series that benefit all different types of vehicles. They make a Heavy Duty shock for towing vehicles and trucks, a series of shocks specifically for motorhomes, and several performance shocks for off-road racing and lifted vehicles. Most significantly they have revolutionized what shocks and suspension components can offer for sports vehicles. Bilstein has something unique that sets their shocks apart from the rest of the manufacturers; they were the pioneers of the Monotube design. This design offers great qualities that offer a long lasting and high quality shock.

It is important to understand the difference between a standard twin tube shock and Bilstein's Monotube shock in order to really grasp all of the benefits. Twin tube shocks have the outer reservoir and then another tube inside that is the "working cylinder". The working cylinder contains the dividing piston and this is where the dampening and function happens. The dividing piston is small in a twin tube design and allows for air bubbles to enter the oil, causing foaming. Foaming in a shock leads to decreased dampening force and performance. This design also traps heat in the shock body leading to a shortened lifespan. In a Monotube design heat is able to transfer from the oil to outer surface of the shock making it function more efficiently. The nitrogen in the shock is separated from the oil by a dividing piston that is 228% larger than a twin tubes piston, and pressure from the gas keeps the oil from foaming. This process results in a longer life for the shock as well as a better ride and more control over the vehicle.
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No, they aren't used. Found a brand new set for the rear for a really good price. Was thinking about Bilstein but figured for the price I couldn't pass these up if they would fit.
How cheap are they? ~$60-70 per shock for bilsteins, which most would agree is an upgrade.

The stock ones aren't bad of course, and would be a definite improvement over worn out stockers, but if you are doing the work might as well upgrade IMHO
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What are the benefits of Bilstein over OEM or Gabriel or any other shock?
IMO, Gabriel shocks would be a downgrade from the OEM shocks.


The OEM shocks usually cost more even if you find them at wholesale (a lot of Dealers sell OEM parts over the internet at wholesale prices) because they are higher quality than the Gabriel and Monroe's you find at local auto-stores.


I haven't tried Gabriel or Monroe's on the Commander, I have on other vehicles and brand new they were at best equal to the OEM shock/strut and quickly degraded/wore out faster than the OEM shocks/struts.


The Blistien is a small upgrade to the OEM and will probably last as long as well. And it ain't much more than the OEM shock in price if you comparison shop off the internet.
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IMO, Gabriel shocks would be a downgrade from the OEM shocks.


The OEM shocks usually cost more even if you find them at wholesale (a lot of Dealers sell OEM parts over the internet at wholesale prices) because they are higher quality than the Gabriel and Monroe's you find at local auto-stores.


I haven't tried Gabriel or Monroe's on the Commander, I have on other vehicles and brand new they were at best equal to the OEM shock/strut and quickly degraded/wore out faster than the OEM shocks/struts.


The Blistien is a small upgrade to the OEM and will probably last as long as well. And it ain't much more than the OEM shock in price if you comparison shop off the internet.
After my great experience with bilsteins when I went to install shocks in another vehicle I found a great deal on Gabriel Max Control monotubes (their top end most expensive option!). They were terrible.

In less than a year one was completely blown, another was very worn out. They have now been replaced with bilsteins. Instant improvement.

I won't ever waste time and money installing lesser shocks than bilsteins. There are superior options of course, (like Fox for example) but they cost significantly more.

I've also installed KYB MonoMax shocks on a pickup. Those weren't bad, but price is comparable to the billy's so I won't go that route again.

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