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Need help, I'm stuck.

Sorry all, trying to put my RC 2 inch in and I cant figure it out.
Clevis bolts did not come out as I figured. Just finally got the bolt out of the top of the fork, but now the shock still won't move. Am I missing something?
Without that bolt in there, the shock should be free from the fork, just more brute force?




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Also, why doesn't anyone take off the control arms? I'm guess that must be a huge pain. But if they weren't there, we would be able to lean the strut out still attached to the fork and clevis bolts and put the spacers lift on top.
Just a thought as I having been coming up w plans C through M. Ha.


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I'd recommend PM'ing TwoBobsXK.

He's very knowledgeable and one of the more active forum mechanics.

Or maybe you can talk to Bobula, I think he recently did a job similar to this - but with a different lift kit.


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I tapped the forks completely off the bottoms of the shocks. It will take a few whacks with a mallet. I cleaned off both the shock and fork and put on some WD40 before install.

Put the shock in place and support with one of the bolts through the top. Then you have to tap the fork up onto the shock.

It really is easy compared to taking more suspension pieces apart.


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Thanks Bob. Appreciate that. I put it all back together. It wasn't much easier.
I think I may take it to a local mechanic to have him get the clevis bolts off. Then I will be able to get the rest.


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So another question; now that I have taken the front one side all apart and put it back together, will it be ok to drive a few days and a couple hundred miles to work without an alignment? I don't want to eat away at the tire. Even though I want new taller ones.
What do you guys think?


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So another question; now that I have taken the front one side all apart and put it back together, will it be ok to drive a few days and a couple hundred miles to work without an alignment? I don't want to eat away at the tire. Even though I want new taller ones.
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You took it apart and put it back together - but with the same components, so, your suspension geometry remains unchanged.

Provided that you torqued everything to spec while the suspension was under load, I wouldn't think you'd need an alignment.

If you didn't torque everything down while the suspension was under load - I'd be sure to do that.

As long as you did, you should be fine.


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Thanks. I did not under load. But I will.


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Thanks. I did not under load. But I will.


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I'm not a mechanic by any stretch, but, I have been around here long enough to tell you that I have seen and heard about people not torquing everything down when the suspension is under load - and more often than not, it causes them problems - creaking & clunking noises from the suspension mostly.


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The shock can sometimes be a challenge to get out of the clevis while it's still in the vehicle so the roadblock you ran into isn't unexpected.

My suggestion would be to try to remove the lower clevis bolt. Don't know what part of the country you're in but the lower clevis area doesn't look too rusted in the picture so you may be able to remove the bolt without too much trouble. I was able to remove mine (as well as the front lower control arm bolt which also tends to rust to the bushing sleeve) and I'm in Northern Ohio and our roads are coated with sodium most of the winter. If you can remove the clevis bolt then just lower the shock tower out of the XK and bolt the spacer to the top of the tower.

If you can't remove the clevis bolt, try removing the lower control arms. Like I said above, the front lower control arm bolt tends to rust/seize to the bushing sleeve preventing it's removal but it's slightly more protected from the elements. Problem with removing the lower control arms is the CV axle has to come out too - which makes your project much more involved.

If your clevis bolt/bushing is in as good a shape as it looks to be in the pic above try removing it. May take some serious effort but loosen, then tighten, then loosen, repeat. If it comes out you'll be SO MUCH better off and the install of the spacer lift will be a piece of cake. Before you start on the clevis bolt stop by NAPA and get a tube or small can of NICKEL anti-seize; don't get zinc or aluminum as those types won't help prevent the two steel pieces (clevis bolt and bushing sleeve) from rusting together down the road but nickel will do the trick. Coat the bolt liberally with anti seize when you put it back in so it will come out easily the next time you need to remove the shock (and there will be a next time - can't just do this project once. It's a Jeep )

Keep us posted on your progress. I've done a few of these and the frustration of getting bolts loose that haven't been loose since the factory is enough to make you throw a wrench through the windshield. Hang in there - it will work out!

Bob

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