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Bilstein 5100 plus OME HDs before&after

The front strut is set at the minimum lift setting.
In both pictures the tires are aligned with the horizontal, so the rake (or lack of) is what you see.

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In the few Km I've driven so far I can feel the ride quality has changed from floaty to settled. There's quite less rolling when cornering and way less dive under braking. Some bumps are slightly harsher, but long highway bumps feel less scary now. Before it was sometimes a bit uncontrollable.
Sadly, our laws don't allow rims/tires that are more than 3% bigger than the original ones, so I'll try to fill up the space the best I can within that margin.

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Are you running anything extra in the rear or just ome hd? I ask because my front is the same, but I have Monroe load levelers in the back giving some extra lift.... However, yours looks about the same, maybe mine has sagged.

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Are you running anything extra in the rear or just ome hd? I ask because my front is the same, but I have Monroe load levelers in the back giving some extra lift.... However, yours looks about the same, maybe mine has sagged.

Looks great!
Just the shocks/struts and the springs. Nothing extra. Maybe they'll settle down a bit, we'll see

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The front strut is set at the minimum lift setting.
In both pictures the tires are aligned with the horizontal, so the rake (or lack of) is what you see.

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In the few Km I've driven so far I can feel the ride quality has changed from floaty to settled. There's quite less rolling when cornering and way less dive under braking. Some bumps are slightly harsher, but long highway bumps feel less scary now. Before it was sometimes a bit uncontrollable.
Sadly, our laws don't allow rims/tires that are more than 3% bigger than the original ones, so I'll try to fill up the space the best I can within that margin.
3%!! thats rough. What does that equate to? Im curious how that is calculated? Is it both width and height? Do they measure with a tape or simply go off of manufacturer claims? There are certainly tires that are actually a little larger then others with the same exact claimed size.

Looks good btw. What is your measurement from the axle centerline to the fenderlip?
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I have the OME springs with Bilstein 5100's as well. I used the OME heavy duty springs and on my lift the vehicle sat about an inch or more higher in the front than the back. I ended up using a 3/4 inch spacer under the rear springs to even things up. I run 255/75/17 tires. The ride is very good.

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looks great, thanks for the pics. Question tho...why would one choose Bilsteins shocks/struts vs. OME shocks/struts?
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did you go to this setup straight from stock? I have the OME struts and they seem super floaty. Was hoping maybe you could compare, but probably not...
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looks great, thanks for the pics. Question tho...why would one choose Bilsteins shocks/struts vs. OME shocks/struts?
The OME shocks are a Twin-tube design and the Bilstein shocks are a Mono-tube design. Typically the mono-tube shocks are better for off road/ rough road applications. The Mono-tube will operate more efficiently without letting the fluid get aerated on continuous stroking as you would have on a rough road for longer distances. The Twin-tube design is less expensive to manufacture and the design allows the nitrogen gas or air charge to mix with the internal fluid and will become aerated under continuous stroking allowing the damping action to fade. Mono-tube shocks are generally considered to be an upgrade to Twin-tube shocks.

Although on a Commander, since I doubt anyone is racing one in the desert, either shock design would be fine.

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thanks for the info @bdalameda
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3%!! thats rough. What does that equate to? Im curious how that is calculated? Is it both width and height? Do they measure with a tape or simply go off of manufacturer claims? There are certainly tires that are actually a little larger then others with the same exact claimed size.
3% is for the total height, but there's also a limit for the width.
The equivalents for the original tires are: 255/60 R 17 (C), 255/65 R 17 (C), 265/60 R 17 (C), 275/55 R 17 (C), 275/60 R 17 (C). Not many options...
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Looks good btw. What is your measurement from the axle centerline to the fenderlip?
I haven't measured it, but I'll let you know when I do.

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looks great, thanks for the pics. Question tho...why would one choose Bilsteins shocks/struts vs. OME shocks/struts?
Bilsteins are very common in Europe, easier to find and they keep their price quite tamed. OME are imports for me.

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did you go to this setup straight from stock? I have the OME struts and they seem super floaty. Was hoping maybe you could compare, but probably not...
Yes, I went from stock to this lift. If you still have the original springs that's probably what makes the most difference.

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I have the OME springs with Bilstein 5100's as well. I used the OME heavy duty springs and on my lift the vehicle sat about an inch or more higher in the front than the back. I ended up using a 3/4 inch spacer under the rear springs to even things up. I run 255/75/17 tires. The ride is very good.
That's interesting. I have a pic I took this last weekend with the Jeep fully loaded and 3 adults inside, and the rear was quite lower than the front, even with the HD back there, but empty it sits level.
I don't have the third row in there anymore, so that's some weight difference over the rear axle...

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