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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 05-11-2008, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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Newbie Desert Trip

Hello All,

First & foremost, I would like to introduce myself. Im Sidart, currently residing in Dubai, UAE. Been a member since a while, have not been that active.

Cutting a long story short, I always intended to drive in the desert. Motivated by Ahmed's post, I joined a local club and went for a trip.


Some pictures along with my review:

The club deflating our tires to 12 PSI.


Entered the bowl when another jeep was already there.


At the Apex of a dune - Notice the clearance.


3rd Stuck of the day


Pajero stuck - Low clearance is the reason for the stuck



Overall, the commander went extremely heavy. Also, as the experts said, the desert was getting hotter making the sand even more fine. The commander sank into the sand like an anchor in the sea. Maintaining momentum was KEY in not getting stuck.

But, what was a challenge was that the commander had less clearance for which I had to drive fast. But driving fast led to a possiblity of bumper damage.

Action Plan: Going to get a lift kit, bigger wheels, stock bumper. This will be done to increase depature and approach angles. Internally, startin off with an air filter to boost some engine power.

Please do feel free to give in your suggestion and comments.


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I don't know what international shipping costs, but a "Get Lost 4x4" winch bumper also increase front end clearance by a bit. =)

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I don't see a 4X4 badge on your Commander. Is it 4WD ? Which engine does it have ?

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Nice pics Sidart,,

I was exactly in the same location when I visited UAE last January, I drove around the big dune which appears in the background of your first picture. It was in that week when it rained heavily, here is a pic


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In regards to your review:

When I start sand dunes driving by the Commander, I felt exactly the same (heavy), and I got stuck many times. ,,, in fact I was doubt about the Commander capability in sand, and I thought about selling it.

Now I can assure you that it is all about how to drive it and get more skilled in sand dunes driving, and now I drive the Commander in the sand with a lot of confidence and rarely get stuck.,,,,, still the ground clearance is not very good especially in the front ,,, but not very bad.

In the last trip the Toyota Prado didn't manage to get over some places and dunes where the Commander managed,,, it is simply the driver although the Prado has a very good ground clearance, even more that the famous Land Cruiser.

As you said,,,,, It is all about MOUMENTOM.

I don't agree with you about increasing the approach angle,,, it is pretty good (34 degrees,,, same as the FJ), but I agree about the departure angle but it is not very important, especially that you have very good protection bars below the rear section.

I don't suggest lifting the Commander if you are not a serious off-roader and goes off-road often.... keep an Air-Jack with you.

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I don't see a 4X4 badge on your Commander. Is it 4WD ? Which engine does it have ?
He has QT-II, 4x4 badge doesn't come in the international model (XH), I ordered it separately and added as 07JeepXK added the 4.7L

and I most probably he has 4.7L engine, as 3.7L option is not available in UAE and Saudi Arabia.. am I correct Sidart?

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These are GREAT pics. Thanks to our friends from the middle east for sharing.. So many of these places remind me of Baja Mexico except there seems to be more sand whereas Baja has a lot of rocks with spots of beautiful sand.

Sidart, what is the configuration of your Commander? engine, trans etc?

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Great pics!!! And the camels in the background watching just complete the scene!

By the way Ahmed, you should sell your avatar pic to Jeep - it looks like it belongs in a brochure...
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Great pics!!! And the camels in the background watching just complete the scene!

By the way Ahmed, you should sell your avatar pic to Jeep - it looks like it belongs in a brochure...
I think he means the pic in your signature -- not your avatar. Not sure Jeep would want the Arabian flag.

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I think he means the pic in your signature -- not your avatar. Not sure Jeep would want the Arabian flag.
Yea,,, you solved it... I was wondering why Jeep would get a flag!

well at least JeepFreak magazine selected it to post it in the next issue.

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