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Rock Rail Install Complete

About 4 weeks about I ordered a set of Rock Rails from Trail-Gear Inc.

The company doesn't make them specifically for the Commander so the length would have to be adjusted by me. Since the 66" set would be too short I order there 78" set. The 78's are on sale for $99 bringing the total cost to $151.67 with shipping. The cost of the tubing would be around $45 and the main rails come fully assembled and welded. The only thing I needed to do was cut to length, find mounting points and start welding.

Since the only thing missing from my garage is the welder (it was stolen 2 years ago from my brothers garage) I mooch off a good friend of mine, Plus he's an old school retired pipefitter. I decided I wanted the main beam directly below the pinch weld under the rocker for main support. I used the existing 6 holes to bolt 1/4" plates to then lined the rails up and tacked them in place. We removed the rails and fully welded the tabs in place. Reinstalled the rails and cut the legs to fit. The finally step was welding them directly to the subframe.

I really didn't want to weld to the subframe, but I was running out of time since we're leaving on Friday for Colorado. When I purchased the rails I forgot to get the leg mounts. If you decide to order these, I suggest getting them. They can be wleded to the subframe making the rock rails fully bolt on and replaceable if damaged. I will order the leg mounts when I return from Colorado and finish the job the correct way.

The rails are 1035 DOM tubing. 1 3/4" x .120 wall. [email protected] came over last night to help install my Rusty's spacers and help with a few other things (Read: Keeping me focused on the task at hand) Since I don't have any rocks to test on and the website claims how strong they are we decided to slip the floorjack under the outer rail and lift the wheels off the ground. We took an initial measurement and much to our surprise under full lift the rails moved less than 1/16th of an inch!

Sorry no pics of the fitting process, but here they are installed. I plan to coat them with brush on bedliner while I'm Colorado. Thanks to [email protected] and my friend RICHARD (He hates being called Richard, but it won't let me use D*&^) for helping me prep for Camp Colorado.






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They look great. How much trimming did you have to do to make it fit?
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They look great. How much trimming did you have to do to make it fit?
I took 8 inches out of the middle. The legs needed about 4 inches knocked off. From the time I layed them on the ground to install was under 3 hours.

I'm not putting my blessings on these until I see how they handle Colorado. I intend to put them to a serious test. That is also another reason I'm not painting them right now.

I'll send some pics during Camp Colorado.
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That looks really good. Do you think it would have been possible to make brackets to mount them to the "frame" instead of welding? Are they supported by the pinch weld area or do they just rely on the "frame" mount?

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That looks really good. Do you think it would have been possible to make brackets to mount them to the "frame" instead of welding? Are they supported by the pinch weld area or do they just rely on the "frame" mount?
Trail gear sells leg mounts or I could've made my own mounts with more time, but I procrastinated for the last 3 weeks. You know what I mean. They are fastened to the pinch weld in 6 spots with grade 8 hardware. The legs are more for lateral support and upward twisting.


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Looks good, and can't wait for photos from you "testing" your new sliders/Rails.
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Very nice work. I looks like the only modification you had to make was to cut a section of tube out of the middle and weld them back together. Maybe you can talk with Trail-Gear so they can start to produce them they way you modified yours then other XK owners can get them and benefit from your hard work. $150 shipped is a great price, do you know how much they are regular price?

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Very nice work. I looks like the only modification you had to make was to cut a section of tube out of the middle and weld them back together. Maybe you can talk with Trail-Gear so they can start to produce them they way you modified yours then other XK owners can get them and benefit from your hard work. $150 shipped is a great price, do you know how much they are regular price?
There 58"'s run $135 and the 67"s run $140, so using that I'd guess about $145 to $150. Shipping was $52.67 from Cali to Ohio. The box was just over 70 lbs.

They sell the 8 leg mounting kit for $24. Not much to it.

The mod I would make is to weld a plate to the frame with a solid rod that the leg would slip onto. Then you could bolt the leg to the plate and pinch welds making it a removable system.
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Thanks Tymac for this thread I was thinking about doing saomething similar and looking for a cheap pair or sliders....
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I will bring whats left of my gallon of bed liner in case we need to touch up after the trails.

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