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2011 Ford Explorer Review - First Drive



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Ford reinvents its once-popular SUV, hoping to cross over into renewed success

Do you know what the difference between a crossover and an SUV is? Maybe not, but chances are that if you described what you're looking for in an every day utility vehicle, you'd actually be talking about a crossover.

The distinction between the two is actually quite simple, with an SUV using a truck chassis and a crossover underpinned by a car chassis. More importantly, however, is what this means to how a vehicle handles, drives, what kind of fuel economy it gets and its overall functionality.

The original Explorer was a tremendous success for Ford, delivering what the automaker perceived consumers wanted. But over time car shoppers either changed what they wanted or, more likely, realized what they really were looking for. And despite their love for the Ford SUV (buying 6 million of them), there were a few things they'd change if they could.

While off-road capability and towing are important, Ford canvassed Explorer owners and other new car shoppers to discover that top among the list of demands are things like ride quality, handling and fuel economy.

In the past, meshing these two conflicting lists has brought about 'soft-roaders,' first in the compact class and then in the mid-size segment, with a significant bias towards on-road use. The large vehicle segment, where the Explorer competes, is different and true utility is valued much higher. That being said, Ford did its research in transforming the Explorer from SUV to crossover, attempting to limit the compromises inherent in this change.

To find out just what kind of a job they did, we were invited to the launch of the all-new Explorer in San Diego to test the vehicle's varied capabilities.
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this is basically an edge then?
hate the new looks of cars. trying to make them so futuristic that they are forgetting, no one likes them.
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That's amazing, a reliable vehicle built without my tax dollars. Amazing!!
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this is basically an edge then?
hate the new looks of cars. trying to make them so futuristic that they are forgetting, no one likes them.
No, the Edge is based on the Mazda 6. The new Explorer is based on the Taurus, which is based on the Volvo S80. So, the new Explorer is, in reality, the Freestyle, AKA Taurus X. Take it for what its worth, the new Explorer is based on a car, and doesn't compete with Jeep anymore. My 2c.
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No, the Edge is based on the Mazda 6. The new Explorer is based on the Taurus, which is based on the Volvo S80. So, the new Explorer is, in reality, the Freestyle, AKA Taurus X. Take it for what its worth, the new Explorer is based on a car, and doesn't compete with Jeep anymore. My 2c.
Grand Cherokee its based on the rear-wheel drive architecture of the Mercedes-Benz ML-Class. And it matters how????
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Grand Cherokee its based on the rear-wheel drive architecture of the Mercedes-Benz ML-Class. And it matters how????
It doesn't; I just answered his question. I just amazes me that people do not know what they are buying. The writer of the article doesn't even know what he is talking about. He starts out by defining an SUV (truck based architecture) and crossover (car based architecture) and goes on throughout the whole article referring to the Explorer as a "truck". WTF?
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This is a Jeep forum.I thought we had convinced you guys that the Explorer is a pos.
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Grand Cherokee its based on the rear-wheel drive architecture of the Mercedes-Benz ML-Class. And it matters how????
Well...if this is true, then by definition, the Grand Cherokee is a "crossover". So, the new Explorer "crossover" would be direct competition.
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Well...if this is true, then by definition, the Grand Cherokee is a "crossover". So, the new Explorer "crossover" would be direct competition.
No. The first generation ML was a body on frame truck, not based on any MB car. The second generation ML is a unibody truck, again not based on any MB car. So, the ML is not, and has never been a crossover. Jeep GC has always been a unibody truck - now GC and ML share the chassis. Jeep developed it, but MB will never admit to this.
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Well, doesn't unibody and pretty much equal "car chassis"? And if the 2011 GC is unibody, as far as I'm concerned it's a crossover. And I've said from the first photo release that it looks like a crossover. My 2 pennies.
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