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Hello everyone, I am new to this forum however not new to the Jeep brand. I love Jeeps. I purchased three Jeeps in the past five years. I bought a older 2002 liberty five years ago with 28K original miles, used it as an extra family car and then gave it to my daughter. Factory ordered a 2013 Jeep Wrangler 10 Anniversary and had that for 18 months before selling it, loved it however I love cars so always changing things around, plus too new and expensive for me to go have fun without stressing I am going to damage something. Last year I purchased a 2004 grand Cherokee as an extra car to drive on construction sites where I work and now my other daughter has that one. So two weeks ago, I searched and found a 2008 Jeep Commander Overland 5.7L Hemi with 50K original miles. Had my mechanic look it over before my purchase and it is a little rusty underneath, probably due to the little miles it was driven the last nine years but my mechanic who is a Jeep guy and owned many Commanders in the past said little rust don't hold back so I made the deal. My Commander went right from the dealer where I purchased it to my mechanic and has been in it's reconstruction phase for the past couple weeks. The reconstruction phase includes, replace rear brakes, replace front right axel seal, replace right side manifold gasket, drain and fill front diff, rear diff and transfer case, replace spark plugs and do a induction service, undercoat the jeep to include sanding, etc. ordered some wheels and new bigger tires plus a 2" Rough Country lift, looking a Bilstein 4600 kit new front struts and rear shocks and also clean out sunroof drain. This will be phase 1 then looking to add roof rack, replace exhaust with the manga flow cat back and then rear spare tire mount, maybe replace bumpers at this time. The attached picture was after the vehicle was driven from the dealer to my mechanic. I have been on many forums in my time so I know I will learn a lot here. Hope everyone has fun with their Commander. Take care, Frank
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Hello everyone, I am new to this forum however not new to the Jeep brand. I love Jeeps. I purchased three Jeeps in the past five years. I bought a older 2002 liberty five years ago with 28K original miles, used it as an extra family car and then gave it to my daughter. Factory ordered a 2013 Jeep Wrangler 10 Anniversary and had that for 18 months before selling it, loved it however I love cars so always changing things around, plus too new and expensive for me to go have fun without stressing I am going to damage something. Last year I purchased a 2004 grand Cherokee as an extra car to drive on construction sites where I work and now my other daughter has that one. So two weeks ago, I searched and found a 2008 Jeep Commander Overland 5.7L Hemi with 50K original miles. Had my mechanic look it over before my purchase and it is a little rusty underneath, probably due to the little miles it was driven the last nine years but my mechanic who is a Jeep guy and owned many Commanders in the past said little rust don't hold back so I made the deal. My Commander went right from the dealer where I purchased it to my mechanic and has been in it's reconstruction phase for the past couple weeks. The reconstruction phase includes, replace rear brakes, replace front right axel seal, replace right side manifold gasket, drain and fill front diff, rear diff and transfer case, replace spark plugs and do a induction service, undercoat the jeep to include sanding, etc. ordered some wheels and new bigger tires plus a 2" Rough Country lift, looking a Bilstein 4600 kit new front struts and rear shocks and also clean out sunroof drain. This will be phase 1 then looking to add roof rack, replace exhaust with the manga flow cat back and then rear spare tire mount, maybe replace bumpers at this time. The attached picture was after the vehicle was driven from the dealer to my mechanic. I have been on many forums in my time so I know I will learn a lot here. Hope everyone has fun with their Commander. Take care, Frank
Welcome to the forum Frank;

A 2008 Overland with only 50,000 miles sounds like a great find to me.

Here are some links to help you out with your aftermarket shopping;

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Thanks Blue for all the info. Two quick questions, looking to purchase Bilstein struts and shocks. Found a kit that includes series 4600 struts and shocks that were tested for the Commander however where I am looking to purchase they said OEM replacement not to use with a lift. I just ordered 2" Rough Country suspension lift. I read here about people using the 4600 on the front for the strut but said use a 5100 for the rear since it's a little longer but the 5100 have not been tested for a commander so do I purchase the 5100 for a grand Cherokee? Second question, I ordered 265/65R18 tires. I have 18x7.5 wheels and the tires on there now are 245/60R18, looking to go to 31.5" tire, I think the tire on there now is 29.5 so I want to go bigger at least to the 31.5, but worried about the going from 60 to 65, isn't that the width of the tire. Tire place told my I can still use my wheels on a 65R18. Thanks for your help. Frank
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Thanks Blue for all the info. Two quick questions, looking to purchase Bilstein struts and shocks. Found a kit that includes series 4600 struts and shocks that were tested for the Commander however where I am looking to purchase they said OEM replacement not to use with a lift. I just ordered 2" Rough Country suspension lift. I read here about people using the 4600 on the front for the strut but said use a 5100 for the rear since it's a little longer but the 5100 have not been tested for a commander so do I purchase the 5100 for a grand Cherokee? Second question, I ordered 265/65R18 tires. I have 18x7.5 wheels and the tires on there now are 245/60R18, looking to go to 31.5" tire, I think the tire on there now is 29.5 so I want to go bigger at least to the 31.5, but worried about the going from 60 to 65, isn't that the width of the tire. Tire place told my I can still use my wheels on a 65R18. Thanks for your help. Frank
Frank, I'm a little confused about the Grand Cherokee reference.

I have Bilstein B6 4600 shock absorbers on the front and Bilstein 5100's in the rear - the 5100's work just fine for Commanders - I assume they would work o.k. for Grand Cherokees as well.

I have 31.6 inch tires (P265/70R17's) on 17x8 inch rims with 5.5 inch back-spacing and the 2 inch RC lift and I have no clearance issues.

Was there something else specific you were asking that I missed?


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I ordered a Bilstein 4600 kit that came with two struts and two shocks. The place I ordered them stated they were tested and sold to be installed on a Jeep Commander. However the place stated that they did not sell Bilstein 5100 rear shocks tested and linked to the Commander so I asked for the shocks 5100 for a grand Cherokee. I think I am good, I confirmed the Bilstein part number 33-225807 and it matched the one you posted in a past Bilstein post where to changed out your 4600 to a 5100. I bought the 4600 kit so I will have an spare pair if needed. I have a local mechanic shop doing all my work and with me shipping in parts, I want to have extra if needed to something don't fit or if I break something in the future. You ever think about a rear spare tire mount?
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flmtrain .. "I ordered 265/65R18 tires. I have 18x7.5 wheels and the tires on there now are 245/60R18, looking to go to 31.5" tire, I think the tire on there now is 29.5 so I want to go bigger at least to the 31.5, but worried about the going from 60 to 65, isn't that the width of the tire."


The "65" number in 265/65R18 is not the width. The 265 number is the width in mm. So your 265/65R18 is 20 mm wider than the stock.


The second number in your new tire, "65", is the percentage of the width that is part of the equation determining the total height of the tire. In your 265/65R18 number that would be 6.781496. You double that and add it to your rim diameter and you get 31.562992 inches.


Plug your numbers into this chart on this site to show a comparison in your stock tire and any newer size you may want ... https://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

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I ordered a Bilstein 4600 kit that came with two struts and two shocks. The place I ordered them stated they were tested and sold to be installed on a Jeep Commander. However the place stated that they did not sell Bilstein 5100 rear shocks tested and linked to the Commander so I asked for the shocks 5100 for a grand Cherokee. I think I am good, I confirmed the Bilstein part number 33-225807 and it matched the one you posted in a past Bilstein post where to changed out your 4600 to a 5100. I bought the 4600 kit so I will have an spare pair if needed. I have a local mechanic shop doing all my work and with me shipping in parts, I want to have extra if needed to something don't fit or if I break something in the future. You ever think about a rear spare tire mount?
I've thought about it a few times Frank;

I'm kicking around some kind of hitch mount spare tire carrier - but I don't know if I'll ever pull the trigger because I run into the same problem with them that I run into with custom rear bumpers.

The issue I keep running into is that every rear bumper with a spare tire carrier incorporated into it always seems to be blocking the back-up camera - and that's a function that I am just not willing to lose. Hitch mounted spare tire carriers present the same problem - at least the ones that I have looked at.

I'll carry my spare tire in my trailer - or in my roof basket before I give up my back-up camera functionality - and honestly, that's the direction I'm leaning in right now.


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