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Hey all,
Owner of an 07 Limited here out of Kansas City, MO.
Bought used in 12, now has over 210,000 miles and is still a pretty nice vehicle overall, it sees a lot of time towing jet ski's around (I own a ski repair business) and does pretty well at pulling.
I've had to replace both the front wheel bearings, cam position sensor twice, crank position sensor, ECM, obviously plugs and tires a few times.

I joined up here as it's starting to get pretty tired, and is going to start needing more attention.. looking to learn a bit and pick up a few parts. It's starting to EAT GAS.. like.. not like a poor 14mpg but more like 10 cruising down the highway. A full tank is getting me somewhere around 200 miles, so that's becoming a concern for sure.
Other little things like the stereo display went out, passenger front door hinge needs replaced, turn signal stalk broke (while being in a rush getting in one time...) probably getting to be time for new suspension parts, etc. etc..
Anyways, hello all!
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Hey all,
Owner of an 07 Limited here out of Kansas City, MO.
Bought used in 12, now has over 210,000 miles and is still a pretty nice vehicle overall, it sees a lot of time towing jet ski's around (I own a ski repair business) and does pretty well at pulling.
I've had to replace both the front wheel bearings, cam position sensor twice, crank position sensor, ECM, obviously plugs and tires a few times.

I joined up here as it's starting to get pretty tired, and is going to start needing more attention.. looking to learn a bit and pick up a few parts. It's starting to EAT GAS.. like.. not like a poor 14mpg but more like 10 cruising down the highway. A full tank is getting me somewhere around 200 miles, so that's becoming a concern for sure.
Other little things like the stereo display went out, passenger front door hinge needs replaced, turn signal stalk broke (while being in a rush getting in one time...) probably getting to be time for new suspension parts, etc. etc..
Anyways, hello all!
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Please update your profile - it looks like you missed a couple of questions;
A) 2WD or 4WD
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C) Current mileage;

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Own a Commander?: Yes
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Current Mileage: 86,000

If you gas mileage is getting worse, it may very well be time to change your spark plugs and air filter.

Have you had your fuel system and injectors serviced and flushed yet?

If your radio display is out, you will most likely have to replace the radio - that happened to me - the radio display itself for radio related functions worked fine but the radio display wouldn't show any back-up camera video. Replaced the back-up camera first and then wound up replacing the radio which solved the issue.


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Interesting, it shows I answered all that jazz.. ah, will redo momentarily.

Plugs have about 20k miles on them... alllll 16 of those stinking things, and filter was changed at the same time. I stuck with copper Champions.
I have not actually like.. pulled the injectors and flow tested them or anything like that.. just replaced the fuel filter every other year.
There hasn't been a lack of performance, just drinks the gas. Not that it was the most economical thing, ever, but it just decided to gulp down a whole bunch more over the past three-ish months.

And I'm sure I'll just wind up replacing the radio. It was not a nav system, and I've been griping for a while that I need the back-up camera to expedite the process of hooking up to ski.. this will just be a great excuse to do so.
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Interesting, it shows I answered all that jazz.. ah, will redo momentarily.

Plugs have about 20k miles on them... alllll 16 of those stinking things, and filter was changed at the same time. I stuck with copper Champions.
I have not actually like.. pulled the injectors and flow tested them or anything like that.. just replaced the fuel filter every other year.
There hasn't been a lack of performance, just drinks the gas. Not that it was the most economical thing, ever, but it just decided to gulp down a whole bunch more over the past three-ish months.

And I'm sure I'll just wind up replacing the radio. It was not a nav system, and I've been griping for a while that I need the back-up camera to expedite the process of hooking up to ski.. this will just be a great excuse to do so.
The dealership offers a complete fuel system flush and treatment, I think they recommend it to be done every 36,000 miles or so.

It might not be a bad idea to get it done if you have no record or knowledge of it being done prior.

Also, I'm guessing your mileage is 210,000 not 210 right?

210,000 miles is pretty high mileage - have you kept up on all the routine scheduled maintenance?


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The dealership offers a complete fuel system flush and treatment, I think they recommend it to be done every 36,000 miles or so.

It might not be a bad idea to get it done if you have no record or knowledge of it being done prior.

Also, I'm guessing your mileage is 210,000 not 210 right?

210,000 miles is pretty high mileage - have you kept up on all the routine scheduled maintenance?


I maintenance it pretty well. I'm not going to go full on schedule B, but it gets the synthetic change every 5k, seafoam treatment in both gas and intake at that time.. coolant and fluids have all been flushed about 50k ago, etc etc.
Next maintenance items probably need to be the O2 sensors, although they have never thrown a code.

I would think 210k is nothing.. at least it should be. If that's high, that's bothersome. Although I will say, a few items on this vehicle have been somewhat disappointing that they died out. Wheel bearings @ 115k, alternator at 135k, and the pcm started acting up around 160k until I finally had to change it out earlier this spring before it started warming up outside and messing up again.

But, the thing does get used.. not abused, but used none the less. At least four times a week during the warm season it's pulling skis in and out of the lake, and probably 50% of the time it's being driven, it's pulling one of my stupid little boats.. So I'm not mad at it.

Initially I bought the thing because we needed the third row seat for our kids, so it was a total commuter scooter and family hauler. But now they're all in high school or college, so it's time for me to put some fun parts on it, get it to a respectable ride height with non chick wheels and tires, loud obnoxious exhaust and.. you know.. man it up a little. Just enough that my wife will be slightly embarrassed
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I maintenance it pretty well. I'm not going to go full on schedule B, but it gets the synthetic change every 5k, seafoam treatment in both gas and intake at that time.. coolant and fluids have all been flushed about 50k ago, etc etc.
Next maintenance items probably need to be the O2 sensors, although they have never thrown a code.

I would think 210k is nothing.. at least it should be. If that's high, that's bothersome. Although I will say, a few items on this vehicle have been somewhat disappointing that they died out. Wheel bearings @ 115k, alternator at 135k, and the pcm started acting up around 160k until I finally had to change it out earlier this spring before it started warming up outside and messing up again.

But, the thing does get used.. not abused, but used none the less. At least four times a week during the warm season it's pulling skis in and out of the lake, and probably 50% of the time it's being driven, it's pulling one of my stupid little boats.. So I'm not mad at it.

Initially I bought the thing because we needed the third row seat for our kids, so it was a total commuter scooter and family hauler. But now they're all in high school or college, so it's time for me to put some fun parts on it, get it to a respectable ride height with non chick wheels and tires, loud obnoxious exhaust and.. you know.. man it up a little. Just enough that my wife will be slightly embarrassed
IMO, short of a Diesel engine, 210,000 miles would be high mileage on any gasoline engine.

The Older Hemi's are notorious for being hot-running engines, which also does not enhance their life-expectancy.

The X Factor is how well it's been maintained.

Now all that being said, there is definitely plenty you can do to it to make it more manly.

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IMO, short of a Diesel engine, 210,000 miles would be high mileage on any gasoline engine.

The Older Hemi's are notorious for being hot-running engines, which also does not enhance their life-expectancy.

The X Factor is how well it's been maintained.

Now all that being said, there is definitely plenty you can do to it to make it more manly.
On vehicles I plan on keeping around for any length of time, I just keep the fluids where they're supposed to be, in the amounts they're supposed to be, and pay attention to parts that are supposed to wear out. I mean, I have a big ol shop with a lift and all of the tools.. and I like to use them.

When I think about mileage, ill give a for instance.. about a year ago I sold my 97 Mustang GT convertible that I had bought brand new, back in my youth. Sold it with over 350,000 miles on the clock. Only "hard" part I ever had to replace was the fuel pump in 2015 (in the parking lot of an Autozone outside of Charlotte, NC.) Tires, plugs, fluids, exhaust, alternator.. those were all replaced over the years. But the thing never dripped or burned a drop of fluid. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it across the country in an instant... and I wish I hadn't sold it. Thought it was time to grow up a little more.. so I did. A month later went out and bought a '12 GT with 10k miles and a 6 speed. Immediately gave it headers, Boss intake, exhaust, a tune, few other little things
Last October we sold off the wife's Jaguar XK8 with 250k+ miles, it ate an alternator once.. other than that, not a single problem. Car before that was a Mercury Mariner we'd put 200k+ on. That one did eat a 2-4 band in the transmission, but that was a common problem.

So to think of 210,000 as a lot, just doesn't jive well with me.. not saying you're incorrect, because, you probably are not.. that just stinks. And I'm too busy to be slinging new engines in Jeeps, those days are over for me.

Anyways, I like the Jeep, it's paid for and does what I need it to. Not as much fun as an old 77 Levi edition I had, but it's got AC and cruise LOL
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On vehicles I plan on keeping around for any length of time, I just keep the fluids where they're supposed to be, in the amounts they're supposed to be, and pay attention to parts that are supposed to wear out. I mean, I have a big ol shop with a lift and all of the tools.. and I like to use them.

When I think about mileage, ill give a for instance.. about a year ago I sold my 97 Mustang GT convertible that I had bought brand new, back in my youth. Sold it with over 350,000 miles on the clock. Only "hard" part I ever had to replace was the fuel pump in 2015 (in the parking lot of an Autozone outside of Charlotte, NC.) Tires, plugs, fluids, exhaust, alternator.. those were all replaced over the years. But the thing never dripped or burned a drop of fluid. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it across the country in an instant... and I wish I hadn't sold it. Thought it was time to grow up a little more.. so I did. A month later went out and bought a '12 GT with 10k miles and a 6 speed. Immediately gave it headers, Boss intake, exhaust, a tune, few other little things
Last October we sold off the wife's Jaguar XK8 with 250k+ miles, it ate an alternator once.. other than that, not a single problem. Car before that was a Mercury Mariner we'd put 200k+ on. That one did eat a 2-4 band in the transmission, but that was a common problem.

So to think of 210,000 as a lot, just doesn't jive well with me.. not saying you're incorrect, because, you probably are not.. that just stinks. And I'm too busy to be slinging new engines in Jeeps, those days are over for me.

Anyways, I like the Jeep, it's paid for and does what I need it to. Not as much fun as an old 77 Levi edition I had, but it's got AC and cruise LOL
That's funny, I had 2 mustangs in my youth; a 91 Fox-Body LX with a 5.0L and then I traded that one in and got a 93 LX with a 5.0L (Both were 5 speeds) which I tricked out, Cobra upper & lower intake, 1.7 Roller Rockers, 65 MM Throttle body, 70 MM Mass Air Sensor, High Performance "X"-ECU, Superchips ADS performance chip, 3.55 gears in the rear, TREMEC 5 speed transmission, K&N RAM AIR kit, High Performance pulley kit, Electric Fan, 190 Liter per hour fuel pump, 3 Chamber Flowmaster Exhaust with a 3 inch stainless steel Basani X-Pipe with Hi-Flow Cats & BBK 1" 5/8 inch shorty headers, I also had a brand new B303 cam, E303 cam and GT40X Aluminum cylinder heads still in the box that I sold with it when I got rid of it in 2005. I lost my tail when I sold that car and didn't come anywhere close to getting my money back, as you can imagine.

I LOVED those 2 cars, but I had to grow up - and those 2 Mustangs caused me way too many run-ins with the law.

But, like I was saying - if you have those kind of resources and you are keeping on top of it the way you say you are, you might get another 150,000 miles out of it, who knows.

The only thing I can tell you from my time on this forum is, I don't recall seeing or hearing of anybody with a Commander, that has a Hemi with over 250,000 original miles on it.

Maybe they exist - and those owners just don't post here, but as I said, Hemi's are notoriously hot-running engines & that seems to be about the amount of mileage (250,000) where they start having major problems like dropping valve seats - which the Hemi's are quite infamous for and when that happens with the mileage that high - most guys will either opt for a rebuild, or, just replace the block altogether.

Maybe you will wind up being the exception - who knows.

Best of luck with her and your upgrades project .


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Jinxed it. I knew it.
Friday morning on the commute into work, it started making a pretty ornery knock. On the drive home, it started losing power... made it home, but it's not happy. Started it up Saturday, sounds like a dwarf in there smacking the oil pan with a brass hammer.
So, it's parked, and I will probably just make it go away since I just don't have the time, money, or gumption to pull and rebuild that engine.
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Jinxed it. I knew it.
Friday morning on the commute into work, it started making a pretty ornery knock. On the drive home, it started losing power... made it home, but it's not happy. Started it up Saturday, sounds like a dwarf in there smacking the oil pan with a brass hammer.
So, it's parked, and I will probably just make it go away since I just don't have the time, money, or gumption to pull and rebuild that engine.
Craigslist, coming up!
Oh man that’s a BUMMER!!!!

Speaking of mustangs, my first car was a 68 mustang. LOVED that thing to no end. Real sad to give it up...oh well.

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