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Front Left ginding at start up

Window Message: Service 4 Wheel Drive

Dashboard Indicator Lights On: ABS - Traction Control - ESP/BAS.

Drive train `clunks' when first starting out; definite grinding/crunching when wheels turned far left when turning around. Once on the road, everything works smoothly, but all Dashboard Indicator Lights stay on. Also; Cruise Control stopped working when all this began.

Possible causes for all this?

Thanx, Clovis
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Window Message: Service 4 Wheel Drive

Dashboard Indicator Lights On: ABS - Traction Control - ESP/BAS.



Drive train `clunks' when first starting out; definite grinding/crunching when wheels turned far left when turning around. Once on the road, everything works smoothly. Also; Cruise Control stopped working.



Possible causes for all this?


Thanx, Clovis
It is most likely a bad wheel speed sensor. Check for codes. It's an easy fix.

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Thank you for your response on a `bad wheel sensor' being the problem.

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Can you give me an estimate on:
Cost of a new wheel sensor?
Cost for labor to install the sensor?


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Did you check for codes? If so what code(s) did you get?:

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I would like someone to reply to my earlier questions about my Jeep Commander LTD 5.7Ltr Hemi and the problems I listed. One reply said my prob is probably a `wheel speed sensor."


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Window Message: Service 4 Wheel Drive

Dashboard Indicator Lights On: ABS - Traction Control - ESP/BAS.

Drive train `clunks' when first starting out; definite grinding/crunching when wheels turned far left when turning around. Once on the road, everything works smoothly, but all Dashboard Indicator Lights stay on. Also; Cruise Control stopped working when all this began.

Possible causes for all this?

Thanx, Clovis
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I would like someone to reply to my earlier questions about my Jeep Commander LTD 5.7Ltr Hemi and the problems I listed. One reply said my prob is probably a `wheel speed sensor."


Former message:
Window Message: Service 4 Wheel Drive

Dashboard Indicator Lights On: ABS - Traction Control - ESP/BAS.

Drive train `clunks' when first starting out; definite grinding/crunching when wheels turned far left when turning around. Once on the road, everything works smoothly, but all Dashboard Indicator Lights stay on. Also; Cruise Control stopped working when all this began.

Possible causes for all this?

Thanx, Clovis
@CAdvoc , I answered you with the possible wheel speed sensor. Then I asked you for any codes that you were getting but you did not respond. The codes will tell for sure if it is a wheel speed sensor.

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Having trouble using this app - sorry!


I have no way of checking for `codes,' so can't help you other than with the dashboard info I posted above...
Also:
Can you give me an estimate on:
Cost of a new wheel sensor?
Cost for labor to install the sensor?


And do you know of a reputable Jeep service center near Lakehills, TX?


Thanks,
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Having trouble using this app - sorry!
I have no way of checking for `codes,' so can't help you other than with the dashboard info I posted above...
You need to know for sure what you are dealing with. To check for codes turn the key to the "On" position rapidly 3 times in a row. DO NOT start the engine. The codes will show in the dash. Alternatively, you can go to Auto Zone, Advance Auto, or O'Reilly's and they will check for codes for free. Let us know what turns up.
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grinding solution

Hi Clovis-


If your description of "grinding" is similar to the binding/jerking feeling that I was getting from my front end.. then the solution is replacing the "Solenoid" that connects in the front transfer case. The best description I came up with is it felt like driving an older 4x4 in tight turns with axle lock.


Here's what my experience was: When starting the Jeep cold in the morning, it would bind/jerk the front wheels when backing out of garage and turning. Didn't notice anything when going straight. Also, after 5 minutes of driving it wouldn't do it when turning anymore. This made it difficult for the jeep dealer to diagnose as I'd drive it in and then try and show the tech what was happening and it wouldn't do it.


What happens is that solenoid is stuck when the fluid in the transfer case is cold. It doesn't allow the front axle to turn independent of the rear so you get the axle jerking feeling. Once the fluid warms up in the transfer case the solenoid works properly and you can turn without issue.


My jeep dealer replaced an axle half shaft (not sure it was necessary) which didn't fix it. Then they flushed and replaced the diff fluid in the transfer case (again likely not necessary) and it didn't fix it.


I took it to another shop after doing some research online and shared the article below. They agreed and said the solenoid is generally their "go to" first.

I can't link the article. google "jeep commander binding" and read the article titled Jeep T-Case Problem? Check the Axles


Hope this helps.
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