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2007 Jeep Commander remote start not working

Hey there everyone.
I have been reading through all the posts that I can that pertain to my issue and some that don't. There is some great information in here but I'm hoping for a little input. My 2007 Jeep Commander is equipped with Remote start. Well the VIN number checking confirmed that originally the Jeep came with it. The Key FOB has the button for it but it's not working. Before anyone jumps the gun I have done my best to do my research but still coming up a little short on what all to check. I'll list what I have done to the Jeep since I got it back in September.
Bought at online Insurance Auction.
2007 Commander Limited 4.7L Trail Rated
127,324 miles on it
Jeep was listed as running and driving. It arrived in poor running condition.
All Dash lights were on when it did run. On testing the vehicle we found the number 7 cylinder was shot. So I bought a used motor with about the same mileage. It runs great. We replaced the oxygen sensors, some gaskets, some hoses. When we started it up after all the instal and semi rebuild of the motor it ran great but we had the ESP lights still on. The button on the information center was also stuck in place. My brother the mechanic who actually has done most of the work knew what to do. Anyhow after research and running codes we replaced the clockspring and the panel in the information center with working parts. All dash lights went out and it was doing great. Not less then two weeks of owning it some person hit the Jeep in the rear drivers side. They hit it hard enough to go under the Jeep and dent the side panel under the bumper. Destroyed the bumper and the fender flares. They blew the tire out in two places. The Jeep was pushed forward about 20 inches and was diagonal in it's parking spot. I put the spare tire on just to be able to get to work. The TPMS system now shows the passenger side rear tire not responding to the sensors or it shows 0 pressure on that side but the other 3 sides are fine.
I have also replaced the factory struts and springs and soon the rear shocks.
The Jeep runs great and is my daily driver. I know I need to do other work to it and it will all get done in time. By that I mean finishing the shocks and getting new tires and then the alignment. I will also be replacing the brakes and honestly I'm thinking of replacing the calipers.
After replacing the clockspring my brother used the scanner and checked for codes. He mentioned to me that the codes were clear except for stored codes.
I tried the remote start before the accident and it did not work.
Like I said above. I have been reading and testing out what I've read to see it it will change the remote start not working.
I've ran all code checkers to see if any active codes are displayed. There are no active codes that I can tell. I went to Autozone and had them run a scan and nothing. I ran the DTC codes this morning and nothing came up. The cycle ran complete and showed done.
This weekend I will check the hood area for some type of switch. I read in one of the threads that the hood can still be closed but have a defective switch. I think I also saw that stored codes could cause an error on the Remote start not working.
Now I bought this Jeep and it came with only one Key. The FOB has the button for the remote start but when I click it twice the doors lock and the lights come on and there is a red light on the dash that blinks and I can hear some type of click noise but it won't start.
So finally here are my questions.
1.) Do I need a second key like I've been reading for the remote start to work? If so, Is the dealership the only place I can go for the second key?
2.) Do stored codes affect the remote start to not work?
3.) Would the TPMS being jacked up cause the remote start to not work?
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Just from my experience with my 2010. When I got my commander (used) it had one key, remote start worked. when I've been working under the hood and forget to take the keys out of my pocket, I have a couple of times inadvertently activated the remote start. Lights flash, doors lock, a few relays click, but luckily for me the hood open switch works and the jeep does not start. My hood open switch is on the drivers side inner fender just rear of the battery.
Sounds like there was a fair amount of work under your hood, it may be as simple as the switch became unplugged during the engine swap.
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Hey there everyone.
I have been reading through all the posts that I can that pertain to my issue and some that don't. There is some great information in here but I'm hoping for a little input. My 2007 Jeep Commander is equipped with Remote start. Well the VIN number checking confirmed that originally the Jeep came with it. The Key FOB has the button for it but it's not working. Before anyone jumps the gun I have done my best to do my research but still coming up a little short on what all to check. I'll list what I have done to the Jeep since I got it back in September.
Bought at online Insurance Auction.
2007 Commander Limited 4.7L Trail Rated
127,324 miles on it
Jeep was listed as running and driving. It arrived in poor running condition.
All Dash lights were on when it did run. On testing the vehicle we found the number 7 cylinder was shot. So I bought a used motor with about the same mileage. It runs great. We replaced the oxygen sensors, some gaskets, some hoses. When we started it up after all the instal and semi rebuild of the motor it ran great but we had the ESP lights still on. The button on the information center was also stuck in place. My brother the mechanic who actually has done most of the work knew what to do. Anyhow after research and running codes we replaced the clockspring and the panel in the information center with working parts. All dash lights went out and it was doing great. Not less then two weeks of owning it some person hit the Jeep in the rear drivers side. They hit it hard enough to go under the Jeep and dent the side panel under the bumper. Destroyed the bumper and the fender flares. They blew the tire out in two places. The Jeep was pushed forward about 20 inches and was diagonal in it's parking spot. I put the spare tire on just to be able to get to work. The TPMS system now shows the passenger side rear tire not responding to the sensors or it shows 0 pressure on that side but the other 3 sides are fine.
I have also replaced the factory struts and springs and soon the rear shocks.
The Jeep runs great and is my daily driver. I know I need to do other work to it and it will all get done in time. By that I mean finishing the shocks and getting new tires and then the alignment. I will also be replacing the brakes and honestly I'm thinking of replacing the calipers.
After replacing the clockspring my brother used the scanner and checked for codes. He mentioned to me that the codes were clear except for stored codes.
I tried the remote start before the accident and it did not work.
Like I said above. I have been reading and testing out what I've read to see it it will change the remote start not working.
I've ran all code checkers to see if any active codes are displayed. There are no active codes that I can tell. I went to Autozone and had them run a scan and nothing. I ran the DTC codes this morning and nothing came up. The cycle ran complete and showed done.
This weekend I will check the hood area for some type of switch. I read in one of the threads that the hood can still be closed but have a defective switch. I think I also saw that stored codes could cause an error on the Remote start not working.
Now I bought this Jeep and it came with only one Key. The FOB has the button for the remote start but when I click it twice the doors lock and the lights come on and there is a red light on the dash that blinks and I can hear some type of click noise but it won't start.
So finally here are my questions.
1.) Do I need a second key like I've been reading for the remote start to work? If so, Is the dealership the only place I can go for the second key?
2.) Do stored codes affect the remote start to not work?
3.) Would the TPMS being jacked up cause the remote start to not work?
@Jerry Dean Thomas II; O.K. so, a couple of things here;

As @Up4XK stated, I don't think you need 2 keys for the remote start to work; This is what the hood switch for the remote start system looks like (thanks to @Outlaw for the pic) and it's on the driver's side essentially right next to the battery;



Make sure the connector is connected obviously; If that switch is bad, your remote start will not operate; It's a safety feature to keep the remote start from activating while you're working under the hood.

The TPM sensor system has ZERO to do with your remote start system; one does not affect the other in any way. You can rule that one out with absolute certainty.

I've never heard of stored codes keeping the remote start system functioning, it's not impossible, but, I'd say highly unlikely.

There are a couple of other possibilities; You Key FOBIK could have a week battery - I'd get a new battery for it and try it again;

It may simply be that you Key FOBIK needs to be properly programmed to your VIN for the remote start to work; This is something that a Jeep/Chrysler dealership would definitely have to look into.

It could also be that your remote start system is disabled (turned off) in your XK's computer - in which case you could either buy the Appcar DiagFCA OBD-II Software and go into your computer/ECU and do it yourself - or the only other option would be, taking your XK to the dealership and letting them go in and check; Here is a thread with all of the information about the Appcar DiagFCA OBD-II Software - Please read the first post in the below thread before you ask any questions about the software as most question will be answered in that first post;

https://www.jeepcommander.com/forums...ftware%3B.html


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Also, I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything, but, I just want to verify that the button your pressing for your remote start looks like this - I know you have a 2007 & I have a 2008, but, the button should look like this - or very similar;



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Also, I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything, but, I just want to verify that the button your pressing for your remote start looks like this - I know you have a 2007 & I have a 2008, but, the button should look like this - or very similar;

Yes the button looks like that on my FOB, of course mine in a little different as I have the actual Key.
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@Jerry Dean Thomas II; O.K. so, a couple of things here;

As @Up4XK stated, I don't think you need 2 keys for the remote start to work; This is what the hood switch for the remote start system looks like (thanks to @Outlaw for the pic) and it's on the driver's side essentially right next to the battery;



Make sure the connector is connected obviously; If that switch is bad, your remote start will not operate; It's a safety feature to keep the remote start from activating while you're working under the hood.

The TPM sensor system has ZERO to do with your remote start system; one does not affect the other in any way. You can rule that one out with absolute certainty.

I've never heard of stored codes keeping the remote start system functioning, it's not impossible, but, I'd say highly unlikely.

There are a couple of other possibilities; You Key FOBIK could have a week battery - I'd get a new battery for it and try it again;

It may simply be that you Key FOBIK needs to be properly programmed to your VIN for the remote start to work; This is something that a Jeep/Chrysler dealership would definitely have to look into.

It could also be that your remote start system is disabled (turned off) in your XK's computer - in which case you could either buy the Appcar DiagFCA OBD-II Software and go into your computer/ECU and do it yourself - or the only other option would be, taking your XK to the dealership and letting them go in and check; Here is a thread with all of the information about the Appcar DiagFCA OBD-II Software - Please read the first post in the below thread before you ask any questions about the software as most question will be answered in that first post;

https://www.jeepcommander.com/forums...ftware%3B.html
Hi, I'll check those things out tomorrow on my day off. I was tired after work yesterday. What I meant to say about the second key was. I had read that you needed the two original keys for programming any new keys and would it possibly have anything to do with the remote start not working. Thank you guys for all the help and thanks for the photos. I'll check to see if it was disconnected.
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Yes the button looks like that on my FOB, of course mine in a little different as I have the actual Key.
Well, I gave you all of the possibilities I could think of; If you check out all of those issues, you should be able to resolve the problem; If it was me, I'd probably troubleshoot in this order;

1) Replace the battery in your Key FOBIK - probably a good thing to do regardless of the outcome;

2) Check the connector on the hood switch and verify (maybe with your brothers help) that the hood switch is good working order and functioning properly;

3) Ensure that your Key FOBIK is properly programmed to your VIN - this will mean a trip to the dealership.

4) Verify that your remote start system is not disabled (turned off) in your XK's computer - in which case you could either buy the Appcar DiagFCA OBD-II Software and go into your computer/ECU and do it yourself - or the only other option would be, taking your XK to the dealership.

One other thing I just thought of - there is a fuse for the "Module-Sentry Key Remote Entry" that could potentially be tied into the functionality of the remote start system; The fuse is located somewhere in the junction block; You should be able to track it down in your owner's manual (assuming you have one); If you want to cross all of your t's and dot your i's, I'd find that fuse and make sure it's not blown.

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Well, I gave you all of the possibilities I could think of; If you check out all of those issues, you should be able to resolve the problem; If it was me, I'd probably troubleshoot in this order;

1) Replace the battery in your Key FOBIK - probably a good thing to do regardless of the outcome;

2) Check the connector on the hood switch and verify (maybe with your brothers help) that the hood switch is good working order and functioning properly;

3) Ensure that your Key FOBIK is properly programmed to your VIN - this will mean a trip to the dealership.

4) Verify that your remote start system is not disabled (turned off) in your XK's computer - in which case you could either buy the Appcar DiagFCA OBD-II Software and go into your computer/ECU and do it yourself - or the only other option would be, taking your XK to the dealership.
Thank you. I will try that all out. I'll leave the dealership option tll the last as I'm limited on cash right now. I don't want to pay the dealership some outrageous amount. Thank you again so much. I just wanted to see if I was on the right track and wanted to eliminate things I didn't need to check.
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Here's my Jeep before the rear end was hit. I'll take a more current photo today. I had to replace the rear bumper and the rear tire flares with junkyard parts. The fender flares in the rear now have the ornamental rivets on the flares but only in back as the junkyard didn't have the fronts to match.
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