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Looking to find two kayak carriers for my '06 Commander.
I do not have factory cross bars but the mopar sport utility bars.

The optional kayak carrier thru Mopar will not work as the kayaks are each 30 inches wide (they are both tandem kayaks).

Looking at possibly some type of carrier that would put the kayak on its side, or maybe one on it's hull and one on it's side.

Problem is, seems like these sport utility bars are thicker than a normal crossbar...

Thoughts/ideas/suggestions.

(trailers seem to be too expensive at $1000+++)
 

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Mopar Sport Utility Bars?

Are you using the Mopar Sport Utility Bars for cross bars?
Their width/depth seem to make them very difficult to use.

What Thule kayak carrier are you using?

I may have found one that will work. it is a very tight fit, Thule 815 Cradle.
Bolts are right up against the bars, but they appear to fit.
I need to go to hardware store to purchase longer carriage bolts in order to make it work.
But, it may be a solution.

Shouldnt be this difficult, what a struggle...
 

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Master Commander said:
Are you using the Mopar Sport Utility Bars for cross bars?
Their width/depth seem to make them very difficult to use.

What Thule kayak carrier are you using?

I may have found one that will work. it is a very tight fit, Thule 815 Cradle.
Bolts are right up against the bars, but they appear to fit.
I need to go to hardware store to purchase longer carriage bolts in order to make it work.
But, it may be a solution.

Shouldnt be this difficult, what a struggle...
i have the stock roof rack with cross bars.i do not know the model rack .but when i originally purchased them ,they were for the vehicle stated in prior post.if i get a chance i will look to see if there is a model #
 

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a crossbar question:
The factory crossbars are rated at 150 lbs. (dead weight). Most tandem kayaks weigh in at 50-70 lbs. Mine are at 65 lbs. Two kayaks would be pretty close to the most that one might want to safely load.

Lets assume you want to carry more than two kayaks. You would have a space as well as weight limitation. Both Thule (830 stacker)(T-bar style) and Yakima (Hullraiser Aero) (J-bar style) are available options with Factory crossbars for the Commander.

Most Tandem kayaks are beamy running in the 30-35" range the widest point with a depth (Height) of around 16 inches. Assuming using a J-bar or T bar arrangement you should be able to get the total width down to about 30-40" with two kayaks.

What I would like to do is carry two kayaks and a cargo box on top. I think it would fit with two pairs of j-bars mounting the kayaks on the outside edge but that would bring the crossbars to there max load limit before I put anything into the cargo box.

So, here is the question: does anyone have experience in using 4 factory crossbars thereby sharing the load between the kayaks on one pair and the cargo box on the other? 300 lbs Vs the factory standard of 150 lbs.

It's a question of the ratings of the rails mounted to the roof structure and I don't have a bloody idea where I could get that spec.
 

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try jeep customer services they are really helpful for thngs like that.


i would be erring on the side of caution and saying that 4 bars will not give you 300lbs rating. I may of course be totally wrong:D
 

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drysuitdiver said:
try jeep customer services they are really helpful for thngs like that.
i would be erring on the side of caution and saying that 4 bars will not give you 300lbs rating. I may of course be totally wrong:D
we debated this recently for a roof rack. i dont think it was resolved as to the crossbars were rated for 150 or the rails, or the roof.
another thread i read stated he used 4 cross bars and he climbed on top @225lbs without a problem.
 

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drysuitdiver said:
try jeep customer services they are really helpful for thngs like that.


i would be erring on the side of caution and saying that 4 bars will not give you 300lbs rating. I may of course be totally wrong:D
I've sent a message to Jeep Service and will post the reply.
 

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The official response from Jeep stated the "roof rail system" as listed in the Owners manual is rated at 150 lbs.
 

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SDBaja said:
The official response from Jeep stated the "roof rail system" as listed in the Owners manual is rated at 150 lbs.
I started to tell you that is what they would say -- hmmm... I must be psychic !
 
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