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Can you remove the 3.5" speakers' dash grill by prying it off or is it like the doors and is just molded to the rest? Any recommendations on 3.5s? Does the small gauge speaker wire that is already run adequate enough for nice aftermarket 3.5s?

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the grill pops off easily enough, butter knife ir screwdriver works well.
Are you replacing all of your speakers? I read a recommendation recently that suggested not hooking up those speakers. My dash speakers are not hooked up. The reason is, in part, the sound has to refloect off the glass and that diminishes the quality of the sound. Use a 2 way in the door. Better staging improves the quality of the sound. Use bass blockers on the front door speakers, but not on the rear speakers.
 

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The speaker grills on the top of dash just pop off. Use a small tipped screwdriver so you don't damage them! I stayed with my BA amp, so the speakers for it need to be 2 ohm. I found 2 ohm 3.5 Infinitys (2-way) from Crutchfield. They supply a connecter which allows you to plug them into the existing wires. I purchased the Kicker 6x9 (1-way) for the front doors, and 2 ohm 6.5 Infinitys (2-way) for the rear doors. Sounds good to me! :eyemouth:
 

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Yeah I just put in some killer 6x9 components with the tweeters at the kick panels. I dont think i need bass blockers because the amp does the tuning. I know tweets and other speakers are not good high up because the distance for the left is way closer than the right speaker to the driver and makes bad imaging/staging. and i will not replace the rear speakers because you want a good front stage effect. I will look in to disconnecting the 3.5s.

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The speaker grills on the top of dash just pop off. Use a small tipped screwdriver so you don't damage them! I stayed with my BA amp, so the speakers for it need to be 2 ohm. I found 2 ohm 3.5 Infinitys (2-way) from Crutchfield. They supply a connecter which allows you to plug them into the existing wires. I purchased the Kicker 6x9 (1-way) for the front doors, and 2 ohm 6.5 Infinitys (2-way) for the rear doors. Sounds good to me! :eyemouth:
Do you have your deck equalizer set forward so your rear 6.5 infinitys dont drown out your front stage effect? You want it to sound like all the music is coming from in front of you, even if you have a sub (which is hard to achieve).
 

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The infinity speakers are good - I have them as well. The stock speaker wire is more than adequate. I found that I needed to install a resistor to cut back the sound a bit for better imaging (as Cico7 stated), but they are not totally turned off. One reason is that these are 2 ohm speakers. I replaced the original system with an Alpine amp for the 6 speakers and a JL Audio amp for the subwoofer. Without the resistor, the deck speakers were just too bright. I still lack some mid bass and am not sure if its the natural resonance of the cabin or I am just not tuned up properly.
 

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I might replace the 3.5s but not put the grill back on so i can use brackets to angle them forward and cross angle (left aims rightish) them like a-pillar tweeters on most cars. It is not ideal but I think it will give me a better high middle range because 6x9s are pretty deep because they have the surface area of a 10in diameter woofer.
 

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Do you have your deck equalizer set forward so your rear 6.5 infinitys dont drown out your front stage effect? You want it to sound like all the music is coming from in front of you, even if you have a sub (which is hard to achieve).
I'm using the stock BA amp, which as far as I know, does not have an EQ. I know that the amp is located behind the driver side rear panel by the third row, but I have never looked at it. I'm too lazy to take the panel off! There has been a lot of controversy about this amp, but as near as I can figure out, it is a 6 channel amp: 2 channels for the front door 6x9's (base only), 2 channels for the dash (mid and highs) and 2 channels (full range) for the rear doors. The amp that Kicker makes to replace the BA amp in the Commander does not work because it is not a 6 channel amp. I originally bought the Kicker set for the front (2 - 6x9's and 2 - 3.5's) and the Kicker set for the back doors. It sounded good - much better than the std BA speakers. But within 3 months, I blew the rear 6.5's! The dealer said I had to go through Kicker (I couldn't send them back!) and I couldn't get Kicker to even respond, so I bought the 6.5 2 ohm Infinitys from Crutchfield. The highs sounded so much crisper than the Kickers, that I opted for the 3.5 2 ohm Infinitys for the dash, and they made a huge difference. I stayed with the 6x9 Kickers in the front doors because they are a one way speaker, and the BA amp only sends base to them anyway, so it would have been a waste to buy 2-way speakers. In talking to Crutchfield, if I went with 4 ohm speakers, they would have basically cut the BA amp power in half. This is why I stayed with 2 ohm speakers. My 3.5 Kickers are sitting on a shelf in the garage if any one is interested in them. I used them for only about 4 months, until the replacement Infinity's arrived. They are made to plug directly in to the speaker wire harness. :eek:rangehat:
 

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If I recall correctly, the stock front door and dash speakers are both 2ohm speakers. The rear door speakers are 4ohm. Don't know if that is of any value, but there it is.
 

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I'm using the stock BA amp, which as far as I know, does not have an EQ. I know that the amp is located behind the driver side rear panel by the third row, but I have never looked at it. I'm too lazy to take the panel off! There has been a lot of controversy about this amp, but as near as I can figure out, it is a 6 channel amp: 2 channels for the front door 6x9's (base only), 2 channels for the dash (mid and highs) and 2 channels (full range) for the rear doors. The amp that Kicker makes to replace the BA amp in the Commander does not work because it is not a 6 channel amp. I originally bought the Kicker set for the front (2 - 6x9's and 2 - 3.5's) and the Kicker set for the back doors. It sounded good - much better than the std BA speakers. But within 3 months, I blew the rear 6.5's! The dealer said I had to go through Kicker (I couldn't send them back!) and I couldn't get Kicker to even respond, so I bought the 6.5 2 ohm Infinitys from Crutchfield. The highs sounded so much crisper than the Kickers, that I opted for the 3.5 2 ohm Infinitys for the dash, and they made a huge difference. I stayed with the 6x9 Kickers in the front doors because they are a one way speaker, and the BA amp only sends base to them anyway, so it would have been a waste to buy 2-way speakers. In talking to Crutchfield, if I went with 4 ohm speakers, they would have basically cut the BA amp power in half. This is why I stayed with 2 ohm speakers. My 3.5 Kickers are sitting on a shelf in the garage if any one is interested in them. I used them for only about 4 months, until the replacement Infinity's arrived. They are made to plug directly in to the speaker wire harness. :eek:rangehat:
Yes, it has an equalizer. To access it push in the tune/audio button. It is only bass, mid, and treble, but better than nothing. This is also where you adjust the fade and balance.
 

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If I recall correctly, the stock front door and dash speakers are both 2ohm speakers. The rear door speakers are 4ohm. Don't know if that is of any value, but there it is.
I was told the whole BA system is rated @ 2-ohm. At the time I was going through this, Best Buy and Circuit City (before they went out) had no information on the Commander's BA system, so I hesitated buying speakers from them. So, I had to rely on Kicker (in the end, their warranty sux) and Crutchfield. If the rears are 4-ohm, and I am running 2-ohm, I should have 2x the power - YEAH! But, I blew the 2-ohm Kickers in a relatively short period of time. The 2-ohm Infinitys are working flawlessly. :eek:rangehat:
 

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Yes, it has an equalizer. To access it push in the tune/audio button. It is only bass, mid, and treble, but better than nothing. This is also where you adjust the fade and balance.
Yes, I know that. I run the bass @ 8, mid @ 6, treble @ 9. By EQ, I was thinking he was saying Gain, which I know aftermarket amps have. I do not know if the BA amp has any Gain settings. Sorry for the confusion. :stickpoke:
 
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