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I had my 06 commander's brake pad replaced at Belle Tire when I replaced all four tires because I was recommended to do that about 6 months ago.

Then, as weather got colder, my brake started making whistling noises whenever after parking outside for a while. Usually I do not hear noises when I leave from my garage in the morning. By the time you get out of parking a lot, the noise stops.

So I did some research on my own and found out that some new brake make noises when the air is moist because of the new durable material for the brake. They say there is nothing you can do and brake is nothing wrong with it.

However, now the noise is getting louder and embarrassing although it does not last so long. My original factory brake pad never made such noise.

Now I have a couple of different questions about this...I would appreciate if I could have some of your opinion or suggestions.

1. Is it really true that there is nothing you can do about this without replacing them again?

2. What are the odds if I ask Belle tire to replace them with the ones which would not make any noise for free because I was not informed the brake pads they would be installing might make noises because of the new material?

3. Are those brake made with the durable material supposed to be higher quality and last longer than the factory ones? Or they are just cheap ones which is the reason why it makes noises?


I have been trying do the best for my commander so when they recommended me to replace the brake pads, I just had them do it. I had no idea that brake pads made so much diffrence. I should have gone to the dealer first because I do not know anything about cars.

So I need someone who could help me out here although it is a tiny tiny issue.

Thank you.
 

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I have no clue about what brake pad they installed...They called me while I was waiting for the tires to be replaced and recommended me to replace brake pads and told me the price....then I said "please replace them" I have to see how much they were...
 

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I am looking at the receipt right now....
These are the item lists

Ceramic Pads D1087 Bendix 1 x $79.99
AW Brake pad 1 x $60.00
(remove & Replace Pads, install new or resurface rotors, repack non drive bearing) is this labor fee?

Rotor PRT5656 Bendix Global 2 x $100.99

Are these cheap ones?
Does this mean they replaced the rotor?

Thank you for your assistance.
 

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Thank you for the reply.

I just wanted to see how you feel about the problem...is it normal to make noises like this and there is nothing you can do about it or you think there might be a problem on the brake pad or rotor (I do not know what rotor is).

I just hate to go out there and to be told that there would be nothing they could do...

I would appreciate if you could share what are the possible issues so that I would have some ideas before I talk to them.

Thank you again.
 

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More then likely the backside or rotors is pitted. You prob have surface rust in morning and it takes a few times braking to clear the debris off. I would just have them look at it since its free.
 

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Thank you for the reply.

I just wanted to see how you feel about the problem...is it normal to make noises like this and there is nothing you can do about it or you think there might be a problem on the brake pad or rotor (I do not know what rotor is).

I just hate to go out there and to be told that there would be nothing they could do...

I would appreciate if you could share what are the possible issues so that I would have some ideas before I talk to them.

Thank you again.
 

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The rotor is the stopping surface (the large silver circle). With ceramics it can go away but if not you more then likely need rotors. Jeeps have a tend to pit on the backside.
 

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Thank you. I will have them look at it and see what they say. I will let you know...

Hopefully there is a way to stop the noise...wish me luck
 

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That looks like they did two sets of pads and just one set of Rotors. Bendix has a good rep for quality, never heard of AW though.

I've seen a few posts that the rear discs tend to squeel on the commander. Mine have squeeled a tiny bit here and there, and there is plenty of life left in the Factory Pads.

So, did they install new cheapo pads on the rear without new rotors or resurfacing the rear rotors? That might be the source of your squeel. As well, did the all the pads have the anti-rattle/noise shims on the back of them?

The biggest thing you can to preven brake noise is to use a high quality set of pads, then its make sure the rotors are in good shape, you don't "have to" resurface them unless they need it, but most people do it because its worth a little extra money to have it done then to find out your new brake job has problems or makes noise because of some sort of problem with the rotor surface the tech could NOT see, feel or measure when doing the job. Then after that is making sure everything is cleaned well and you don't get any grease or dirt in the wrong spot. Finally, make sure everything is lubed properly as well. Doing a sloppy job using cheapo parts will often result in brake noise.

But, you can also do the job perfectly, and some brakes prone to make noise, with something less then the top quality pad might still make noise.
 

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Thank you so much for the great analysis.
I should have known there were many kinds of brakes and parts around brakes.

Today I had them (Belle Tire) check the brakes...however, they found nothing that could cause the problem...I was told everything was fine including rotors. The only thing they suggested was to replace the windsheld wiper blade...(unfortunately it is true)

They are willing to try to hear the noise when it makes...so maybe next time I will park my Jeep there for a while and let them hear the noise before they look at it again.

Well...I'm lost...
What would you do next?
 
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