Alright guys I am new to this forum, I am a new jeep commander 3.7 v6 owner, have had it for about 2 months, bought the 2008 used with 35000 mls. Have loved it other then the gas milage up until yesterday. My wife and 11 month old daughter were out and stopped to get gas and when she tried starting it, nothing happened....just the click click noise, so thought maybe the battery, so she got a jump and still nothing. My dad who is very mechanically inclind went to meet her, he cycled through the gears and it started right up. Took it to autozone for them to test tha battery and everything showed good, but when they tried to start it again, nothing. So we are thinking the starter. Took out the starter got it tested and everything was good. Now that could be cause we juggled with it, but who knows so we are getting a new starter just in case, last thing i want is for my daughter and wife to be stranded in 100 degree weather. So while we are under the hood we decide we are going to check everything out since i doubt the previous owner or dealership did the 30000 miles tune up. Now here comes the problem after all of that, how do we get the stinking air filter out? We loosened all the screws and unhooked that hose thing( sorry not very technical) and still weren't able to get it out. Any help would be much appriciated. Also just an overall cencus what do you all think of your commanders? Did I make a smart choice? PS I posted in problems too, didnt know which would be better to post.