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I have been noticing a small amount of clear oil dripping from under my Commander. So today I took a look underneath. It is coming from the transfer case. I tried to tightened some of the bolts holding the transfer case to the transmission? None were loose so maybe the gasket is bad? I also tightened the drain plug and it did move a little. Will wait a few days to see if fixed. Picture attached of the bottom of the transfer case. Any other suggestions?

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Black Permatex is what I use at work on engine blocks, oil pans, and diffs. It’s good stuff.
Thakn you Brad, it is dripping a little more since playing with the cover bolts so I am going to buy all the stuff I need to fix it real soon.
Ok this morning I got the jeep up on ramps and looked over the job. The front differential cover is jammed in there and connected to the mounts and it looks like a bigger job than I want to do. Especially since I have the lifetime Warrantee. So the plan now is to try some stop leak additive and see what happens. If it still leaks it's off to the stealer. It is only about 1 drip a day!

When I bought all the materials for the job at NAPA I got some interesting products.
A pouch with the 75-140 oil for easier "just squeeze" to get it in the diff.
A new (I guess) Permatex made for differentials RTV.
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Ok this morning I got the jeep up on ramps and looked over the job. The front differential cover is jammed in there and connected to the mounts and it looks like a bigger job than I want to do. Especially since I have the lifetime Warrantee. So the plan now is to try some stop leak additive and see what happens. If it still leaks it's off to the stealer. It is only about 1 drip a day!

When I bought all the materials for the job at NAPA I got some interesting products.
A pouch with the 75-140 oil for easier "just squeeze" to get it in the diff.
A new (I guess) Permatex made for differentials RTV.
Picture below.
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Keep us posted @rblapham
Back on the ramps today. Drained about half of the front differential oil. Put in stop leak and topped off with 75-140 and friction modifer. Time will tell if I stopped the dripping. :p
Used this product, I have been using Bars Leak products since i was a teenager in 1950's. It was recommended by a very good mechanic I knew back in the day.
Back on the ramps today. Drained about half of the front differential oil. Put in stop leak and topped off with 75-140 and friction modifer. Time will tell if I stopped the dripping. :p
Used this product, I have been using Bars Leak products since i was a teenager in 1950's. It was recommended by a very good mechanic I knew back in the day.
I'm curious to know if it works or not, in this particular situation.
After 3 days now - no drip. Will report back in about a week. Also no problems noted with the front axle.
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It's been over a month now - still dripping. Is there anything else above the front differential that can leak a clear oil? Another possibility - could the vent hose for the front differential be broken off and causing the oil dripping? I may need to really stick my head into this problem.
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could be the front seal, behind the harmonic balancer. i'll try to get a photo of the relationship between the two since mine is still in pieces.. (honeydoos)
you should be able to get your hands on that hose and follow it up a ways to make sure its not the culprit.
can you tell anything from the cleanliness? motor oil a little older than the diff oil?
Unless the leak has changed locations from your original picture, your diff cover seal is leaking, full stop.
looking this weekend, if it were a front seal, that would be dripping on the steering rack.
diff cover is probably a 3/5 on the gojo meter, and a 1/5 on difficulty..
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It's been over a month now - still dripping. Is there anything else above the front differential that can leak a clear oil? Another possibility - could the vent hose for the front differential be broken off and causing the oil dripping? I may need to really stick my head into this problem.
Clear oil...? Whats it taste/smell like?
Could it be seepage from power steering, or a brake line?
None of the fluid tanks are going down over months of watching so pretty sure it is the front differential. Kind of given up and waiting for a good time to take to dealer as it is my only vehicle.
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I seem to be having a similar issue here. I recently got an oil change and noticed that there were drips on the ground under the car. At first I thought it was just remnants from a sloppy oil change. But I finally took a look and determined that it was the front differential leaking.

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I sprayed it up with some degreaser and hosed it off. It looks a bit better, but still leaking. Makes me wonder why they didnt say something to me when they were under there changing the oil?!?!?

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So this is going to be added to my "Commander To Do" list!!!

I'm gonig to need to get under there and remove the rock cover / guard to get a better look at things. But can this be done with the differential up in the vehicle?? Or does everything need to be disconnected, removed and done out side of the car??
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The biggest problem I saw is to remove the Diff cover which has one of the 3 mounts for the Diff to fiddle with. Really shouldn't be that hard. But since I am almost 80 years old and have the Lifetime power-train warrentee I will let the dealer fix one of these days. If you do it let us know how it went.
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I read up a bit more about this over the weekend and I found This Post about removing the front diff cover. Definitely looks like a job I can handle.

A few questions. Looks like I'll need some 75W-140 oil, Friction Modifier and some Permatex RTV sealant. How much 75W-140 oil does the front diff take?? Any suggestions on brand of oil or friction modifier?? And in the post I linked it mentions the "ELSD solenoid" in the front diff of the QDII systems. Is there anything in the QTII front diff (that I have in my Commander) that should preventatively be replaced since I'd have it opened up??

I picked up 2 rear wheel speed sensors this weekend, which I'll be replacing later this week. Then on to getting these misc parts together and fixing the front diff leak!!
Both front and rear Differentials take 2 quarts each of 75W140 synthetic, all brands are good and most have a friction modifier in them but I add the Mopar friction modifier - 4oz each. Permatex black RTV for the diff covers. Nothing inside the diff to replace, just oil and friction modifier.
Thanks for the front diff cover removal link, I just looked at the service manual instructions.
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Thanks for the info @rblapham I'll look to get this taken care of in the next few weeks. I put 2 bags of the Valvoline 75w-140 and a tube of black Permatex RTV in my Amazon cart this morning!!

Just have to get these Wheel Speed Sensors sorted out and find another day that I have a few hours free.
I got my rear Speed Sensors replaced, so I'm hoping to work on this leak here next week.

As I continue to read up on this, I have another quick question. The instructions on the Permatex Black RTV sealant packaging say to finger tighten the bolts, let set for an hour, then tighten to spec and wait 24 hours to fill with fluids / return to service. I realize that's right from the Permatex packaging, but is the waiting 24 hours to fill with fluids / return to service really accurate?? I usually work on these projects at my parents garage, where my brother has all the tools, air compressor, etc. That's going to complicate things a bit if I cant drive for a full day ...

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I did wait the 24 hours, but i had the luxury of time. I would believe if you give it a few hours to fill you should be fine since these are really not under any pressure.. or you may see if they have a quick setting product.
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