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I received the Grab Bars today. I have read majority of the posts, but I am confused on the hardware. I dont know what the one single black bolt looking thing is? also why is there one Black Bolt? Any insight would be helpful......
 

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http://moparestore.trademotion.com/moparimages/accessory%20catalog/images/isheets/K6860222.pdf

Here are the installation instructions. I believe the black bolt is used to expand the "crush nuts" (part # H) into the body sheet metal, sort of like a molly bolt into drywall. Hope this helps. First, you insert the crush nut into the hole and keep it from spinning. Then take the black bolt and thread it into the crush nut and tighten it until it expands on the inside of the sheet metal. If you fail to do this properly, the first time someone uses your grab handle as a handle, it will fall off! Good luck.
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Thank You for the response. The instructions dont show using the black bolt or the one hex screw......They only show the normal screws and silver hex lugs....I am just unsure at what point I use the 'tools'....Do I stick the silver lug into the hex slot on the car, and than before anything else, I use the tools to get it to expand......And than put the piece and screw in?
 

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DHH3, I can not get the silver hex bolt to expand in the frame of the car...If I am doing it right, I took the existing piece off until I see the frame, removed all white plastic fasteners. Than I am sticking the silver hex bolt into the bottom hole. Than I place the black bolt with the ridged teeth against the flat part of the hex bolt flush with the car, than stick the black screw with hex head into the black bolt and tighten????? I can only turn it very littel until it is pressed against black hex bolt. But the silver hex bolt is very loose and wont tighten.....Any ideas?????
 

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06-10-2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: Rear grab handles
OK I finsihed the install. Unfortunately no pics of the crushnuts/rivnuts/threadnut install portion because I didnt have my camera and a guy helped me at this garage but I saved the rest of the install for home. I couldn't use the set that came with my handles because all the guy had was a standard and not a metric thread nut setter. But with simply changing the mounting hardware to use a 1/4" fitting with 1/4" x 1.5" bolts and washers I managed to install the handles and they are very solid.

After I got home I got relooking at my baggy that the little crush fittings came in and noticed a black nut with no threads and little teeth on one end. After a 1/4 tank of gas and several silly looks from people who didnt think a tool exisited for the fitting in my hand (they all suggested wal-mart) I seemed to have a tool that would work. Go figure. Anyways I included some pics of the install and if you can I highly recommend using a thread nut setter verus the little homebread nut thingy included to ensure a tight fit.
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06-13-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: Rear grab handles
Here is what I strongly recommend if you are going to add these handles yourself.
Unless you own a Rivnut setter I would first take off the old trim piece and then head on over to your local Jeep dealers bodyshop. I stopped by today with the rivnut's in tow and explained how I bought this kit but could not figure out how to install those fasteners. They were kind enough to take my Jeep into their shop and install those four rivnuts using their tool. Took maybe 15 minutes. The body shop guy said I would have had real trouble getting them on and tight with the little tool they included in the kit.
Now I have the handles on and I am happy as can be!
 

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06-14-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: Rear grab handles
I just find it funny that the instructions I got never mentioned what that black nut was for. And I was so focused on looking for a rivnut setter I never thought twice about it till I finished the install and noticed the nut was laying there. Just remember the rivnut/threadnut setter for this kit is METRIC not standard. But if deadboi77 got it with the tool and you ensure you get it tight, I cant see where there would be a problem though I do recommend the black nut tool as a last resort.
 

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06-14-2007, 07:19 PM
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Re: Rear grab handles
ok,just installed these.and realy,it wasn`t bad at all.used that "tool".looked around for a rivnut thingy,couldn`t find one,so we just used that.



i jumped up on each side,to see how well it would hold my big ass.didn`t move a bit
 

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Grab Handles
Grab Handles. This has got to be one of the easiest mods I've done
Remove 2 plastic push fasteners and pull away the trim piece enough to pry the 4 whitish fasteners in behind


Place the rivet nut in the hex hole, I used a wrench to hold the tool part and a power driver to spin the bolt and compress the rivet nut


Trim goes back basically the way you took it off but now with 2 bolts and 2 whitish plastic fasteners. Line up the top end cap over the roof rail, position the clip and fastener then smack it in, the lower one is pretty much the same
 

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You don't need a special tool... Basically you seat the riv-nut into the hole, hold the jam nut against the riv-nut and then start the screw. Put a wrench on the jam nut to keep from turning, slowly tighten the screw...it will pull the riv-nut up against the jam nut and cause the expansion to hold it in. Don't over do the screw tightening - the riv-nut is aluminum and you can strip the threads out.

If you, for some reason didn't get the jam nut or lost it, any nut that is big enough to let the screw pass through it without touching will work in a pinch, but, you'll need to rough up the side that goes against the riv-nut to keep it from spinning. I've used a nut with attached star lock washer before, worked fine and usually there's one laying around the shop...
 

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Ok...After 3 tries...1 hernia, 2 broken blood vessels in my face, chipped tooth, I was able to get one on...HAHAHA......Than it started pouring rain and my drill died.....Basically, I was able to get the nutset tight by drilling as far as it would go and than good old fashion arm strength.....and not using that dumb black long Bolt....I just put the spacer on the actual Long Screw with washer and tightened like it was going out of style.....sweating my yahoo off and only one on.....Right side looks real good though......oh and I crushed half of my smokes......No, I dont smoke in the jeep.....lol.
 

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Thanks to everyone........As always......Excellent Help..We should send all of these suggestions to Mopar and have them included in what they call instructions........
 
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