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Hello everybody, I'm Alex,proud new owner of a high mileage '06 Hemi Limited Commander.
Loving the jeep so far. As can be expected with a vehicle this age, it does have some issues. Biggest issue is a clunk when I shift from P to drive or reverse. I went to an AAMCO to have it checked out, they told me that three differential mounts had collapsed. They wanted a $1000 to replace them, that figure includes service to the differential (new fluid).

Now I searched the forum, and found that the front differential Bushings often cause this problem. I have a couple of basic questions and I hope some of you will be able to help me with this.
1: Are bushings part of the mount?
2: how many front differential mounts/bushings are there?
3: Does $1000 sound reasonable to you?

Thank you!
 

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Can’t answer any of those questions...but WELCOME!! I’m north of you, Bay Area, it’s nice to have more CA folk on here!
 

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Hello everybody, I'm Alex,proud new owner of a high mileage '06 Hemi Limited Commander.
Loving the jeep so far. As can be expected with a vehicle this age, it does have some issues. Biggest issue is a clunk when I shift from P to drive or reverse. I went to an AAMCO to have it checked out, they told me that three differential mounts had collapsed. They wanted a $1000 to replace them, that figure includes service to the differential (new fluid).

Now I searched the forum, and found that the front differential Bushings often cause this problem. I have a couple of basic questions and I hope some of you will be able to help me with this.
1: Are bushings part of the mount?
2: how many front differential mounts/bushings are there?
3: Does $1000 sound reasonable to you?

Thank you!
@ElKomander;

I believe there are 2 front differential bushings - upper & lower. Typically it's the upper front differential bushing that wears out when you start hearing the front end clunking. However that is not necessarily the only thing that could be causing the issue - could be sway bar links and or some other front end component going bad like the bushings in your front upper or lower control arms.

And $1,000 sounds ridiculously expensive if it is in fact a front upper differential bushing issue.

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The jeep needs some tlc, but eventually i will put some pictures up. I took it to a couple of places and they are telling me it looks like the motor mounts are no good. When the mechanic pressed the gas i could see the hemi jump up on the driver's side. Maybe ill have that fixed first and go from there. I have a k&n airfilter coming and im replacing the oil with full synthetic. Right now i have to really work for it to get 10 mpg in the city. I should probably look at the state of the spark plugs as well to see if i can get that up a little. Thanks for all the info big blue, ive got lots of reading to do.
 

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The jeep needs some tlc, but eventually i will put some pictures up. I took it to a couple of places and they are telling me it looks like the motor mounts are no good. When the mechanic pressed the gas i could see the hemi jump up on the driver's side. Maybe ill have that fixed first and go from there. I have a k&n airfilter coming and im replacing the oil with full synthetic. Right now i have to really work for it to get 10 mpg in the city. I should probably look at the state of the spark plugs as well to see if i can get that up a little. Thanks for all the info big blue, ive got lots of reading to do.
My pleasure ElKomander, let me know how it goes.
 

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Well, I installed the K&N filter. Dropping off the kids this morning the MPG on the dashboard hit the magical number of 10.5 for a second, an all time city mpg high for me, up from 10.3 . I just put 17 gallons in the jeep so I'm monitoring how far those will take me. Also, I just figured out that my tires are a little bit larger, 245/70R17. Using the GPS on my phone it seems like I'm going a little faster than my speedometer reads, so I think it was never adjusted for the bigger tires. That means my actual mpg is a whooping 3% better compared to the readouts, right?
After I get all the fluids changed out I might try the flashpaq. This beast is not made for stop and go city driving (Its a schoolbus right now) but I'd like to get the most out of it
 

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Using the GPS on my phone it seems like I'm going a little faster than my speedometer reads, so I think it was never adjusted for the bigger tires. That means my actual mpg is a whooping 3% better compared to the readouts, right?
After I get all the fluids changed out I might try the flashpaq. This beast is not made for stop and go city driving (Its a schoolbus right now) but I'd like to get the most out of it
Adjusting the speedo for the larger tire size will help.
 

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Took my jeep to get a third opinion. Engine mounts are fine, however i do need all the front differential bushings replaced. They quoted me 400 on parts and a 1000 on labor. Wow... Using the websites big blue provided i was able to find the three parts for around 190 including shipping... The same parts from crown automotive are about $80. Does anyone have any experience with those? Im hoping not to have to do the same repairs 10000 miles from now. Maybe i should just stick with the factory parts. Now ill i havd to do is find a mechanic who will do the job for a more reasonable amount.
 

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Took my jeep to get a third opinion. Engine mounts are fine, however i do need all the front differential bushings replaced. They quoted me 400 on parts and a 1000 on labor. Wow... Using the websites big blue provided i was able to find the three parts for around 190 including shipping... The same parts from crown automotive are about $80. Does anyone have any experience with those? Im hoping not to have to do the same repairs 10000 miles from now. Maybe i should just stick with the factory parts. Now ill i havd to do is find a mechanic who will do the job for a more reasonable amount.
That labor quote sounds extremely high to me.

I even question the parts quote based on what you found.

You might want to look for a more reputable shop that has more reasonable labor rates.
 

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How much total labor does your fix entail? A lot of places in the Bay Area charge between $150-$200 an hour just for labor, NOT including anything they consider “extremities” labor. Silly.

So, depending on the amount of work that it involves, $1000 may be the ball park number.
 

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Well, i believe they have to take the weels off, take the front differential off, remove the bushobgs (looks to be a real pain) and put everything back. Aamco would charge around 600 in labor, a small local shop wants a 1000..i was thinking they would be cheaper. I asked a jeep dealership for a quote as well, waiting on that. You are probably not far off with the 150 an hour rate.
 

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Well, i believe they have to take the weels off, take the front differential off, remove the bushobgs (looks to be a real pain) and put everything back. Aamco would charge around 600 in labor, a small local shop wants a 1000..i was thinking they would be cheaper. I asked a jeep dealership for a quote as well, waiting on that. You are probably not far off with the 150 an hour rate.
Depends on the shop or dealership;

I've seen some Chrysler/Jeep dealerships recently, that only charge $85.00 an hour for labor - don't take the $150.00 an hour rate as gospel - that sounds very much on the high-side to me.

Shop around and read the Google reviews on any shop you are considering going to - most of the time, they will tell you all you need to know.
 

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Ive inquired at a dealership as well, waiting on their quote. For now, the commander stays parked and im back to driving a Dodge grand caravan... Damn
 

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Depends on the shop or dealership;

I've seen some Chrysler/Jeep dealerships recently, that only charge $85.00 an hour for labor - don't take the $150.00 an hour rate as gospel - that sounds very much on the high-side to me.

Shop around and read the Google reviews on any shop you are considering going to - most of the time, they will tell you all you need to know.
Yes, do research..but in the Bay Area, that’s pretty much gospel ??
 

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Yes, do research..but in the Bay Area, that’s pretty much gospel ??
Last I checked - @ElKomander is not in the Bay Area.....he is to the south of the Bay Area correct?

Hopefully he can find a better price down there....I'm sorry but $150.00 an hour for labor is just ridiculous in any part of the U.S. that I've ever been in.
 

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Yeah, I am in LA county, and not in the fancy part, so i do hope i will be able to find a better price. I don't think the last owners did a good job on maintenance so i have a bunch of things coming up so keeping the price down is pretty important to me. In the first couple of weeks i already had to replace the battery, the air filter and two tires. Now i have to replace every single fluid in the car, including blinker fluid and im pretty sure the spark plugs need to go as well.
 

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Yes, he’s way south of the bay. BUT LA ain’t that cheap either lol. And $150 around here is considered a good deal. Thought about taking the jeep to Reno to get some stuff done....but that’s just silly.
 

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You know, come to think of it...if you can make it to corona or Ontario, they should be a little cheaper. It’s a drive but it may worth checking it out.
 
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