I couldn't see the video, I just had a rock stuck in my brake dust shield, made a horrible screeching sound, you may want to check that out.:icon_confused:
Help! Front end noise.
G'day folks.
I have a stock 06 Commander Sport. 3.0L Turbo Diesel. Currently at 156k kilometres or 96933 miles. I'm in Australia and my pride and joy is right hand drive. I'm hoping that someone here may be able to help me diagnose a loud rattle I have in the front left hand side. I apologise if this is long but I figure put as much info here to hopefully get a solution.
What I have is a loud, metallic sounding rattle on the passenger side. It comes in about ten-fifteen minutes into a drive and persists until shutdown. It occurs on all road surfaces from new to rough and as much as I try to avoid potholes, they don't seem to make the noise any better or worse.
As I said it sounds metallic and flutters kind of like a playing card in the spokes of your bicycle when you were a kid. The vibrations can be felt in the pedals all the way over on the right hand side, and I can feel it/something shift forward when braking and back when I apply throttle. It is most prevalent at about 40kph.
It first occurred in November last year. I put in in to my local mechanic who does a lot of modern 4X4 and european models and it came back good as new. Vibration and noise gone and a happy customer. The only front end work they did was replace front disc rotors and pads.
In May this year the noise came back. Loud and shaky as ever. During this time I'd driven a lot. I relocated with my job interstate, about 1600kms, and started driving almost 80km round trip each day to work. I immediately stopped driving the vehicle and found a reputable 4X4 service centre in my new town and booked it in for a service and try and fix the source of the noise.
These guys gave it a real good go over. I took a senior mechanic with me on a short drive so he could hear the noise, he had his suspicions as to the culprit and I let them have at it. They replaced all the front ball joints at some expense but the noise was still there. Its not as bad as it was previously but it still there.
They've been over the vehicle very thoroughly but are at a loss as to the source of the noise. As a new customer to them I don't doubt their competence and they have assured me that everything that is meant to be tight is and all moving parts are working as designed.
This is a link to a video I found on youtube. The sound pretty much matches what I am hearing and the shifting back and forth looks like a match too, except that the Commander has a different suspension setup.
If anyone out there has any ideas or has come across this problem before I'd love to hear from you. I've sorted a few other minor issues with my commander from reading threads on this site and you all seem to be my best hope at nailing this sucker.
Cheers
I have a stock 06 Commander Sport. 3.0L Turbo Diesel. Currently at 156k kilometres or 96933 miles. I'm in Australia and my pride and joy is right hand drive. I'm hoping that someone here may be able to help me diagnose a loud rattle I have in the front left hand side. I apologise if this is long but I figure put as much info here to hopefully get a solution.
What I have is a loud, metallic sounding rattle on the passenger side. It comes in about ten-fifteen minutes into a drive and persists until shutdown. It occurs on all road surfaces from new to rough and as much as I try to avoid potholes, they don't seem to make the noise any better or worse.
As I said it sounds metallic and flutters kind of like a playing card in the spokes of your bicycle when you were a kid. The vibrations can be felt in the pedals all the way over on the right hand side, and I can feel it/something shift forward when braking and back when I apply throttle. It is most prevalent at about 40kph.
It first occurred in November last year. I put in in to my local mechanic who does a lot of modern 4X4 and european models and it came back good as new. Vibration and noise gone and a happy customer. The only front end work they did was replace front disc rotors and pads.
In May this year the noise came back. Loud and shaky as ever. During this time I'd driven a lot. I relocated with my job interstate, about 1600kms, and started driving almost 80km round trip each day to work. I immediately stopped driving the vehicle and found a reputable 4X4 service centre in my new town and booked it in for a service and try and fix the source of the noise.
These guys gave it a real good go over. I took a senior mechanic with me on a short drive so he could hear the noise, he had his suspicions as to the culprit and I let them have at it. They replaced all the front ball joints at some expense but the noise was still there. Its not as bad as it was previously but it still there.
They've been over the vehicle very thoroughly but are at a loss as to the source of the noise. As a new customer to them I don't doubt their competence and they have assured me that everything that is meant to be tight is and all moving parts are working as designed.
This is a link to a video I found on youtube. The sound pretty much matches what I am hearing and the shifting back and forth looks like a match too, except that the Commander has a different suspension setup.
If anyone out there has any ideas or has come across this problem before I'd love to hear from you. I've sorted a few other minor issues with my commander from reading threads on this site and you all seem to be my best hope at nailing this sucker.
Cheers
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Well, I'm not sure about that video, but I had a rattle/grinding noise/feeling that was worse with increasing speed. It was the CV joint of the front drive shaft at the transfer case. Get under there and test if the boot is torn - stick your finger up there. This joint is known to fail on our Jeeps. If you are not lifted, you can rebuild the joint for around $60USD. If you're lifted, I recommend a new DS with a double cardan joint on that end. Attached is a picture of my old CV with the torn boot (don't mind the white grease!) and the new double cardan shaft installed.
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Thanks very much for the advice so far. I'll definitely get under there and check both those out.
Cheers
Cheers
lekmedm could you please give more info about your installation of the Caroline Driveline front drive shaft? .. cost, where you bought, how its doing so far?
Well, there is not a lot to tell! I bought it from Carolina Driveline for about $350 shipped (within the US, of course). It's been over a year now, and it's been doing great. There are no vibrations or noises.
I think I should probably make a correction to my reply in this thread from July. The greatest need for this replacement drive shaft is if you have the Superlift because the kit drops the front diff from the stock position, which changes the angle of the drive shaft. If someone is running a spacer lift or OME spring lift, they can probably rebuild the CV joint or replace the shaft with an OE one. That's not to say those with these lifts wouldn't benefit from a Carolina shaft, but you might not want (or be able to) spend the money for one.
I think I should probably make a correction to my reply in this thread from July. The greatest need for this replacement drive shaft is if you have the Superlift because the kit drops the front diff from the stock position, which changes the angle of the drive shaft. If someone is running a spacer lift or OME spring lift, they can probably rebuild the CV joint or replace the shaft with an OE one. That's not to say those with these lifts wouldn't benefit from a Carolina shaft, but you might not want (or be able to) spend the money for one.
Big cause of front end noises on Commanders (if not the #1 cause) is the sway bar bushings, very cheap and easy to replace.
Big cause of front end noises on Commanders (if not the #1 cause) is the sway bar bushings, very cheap and easy to replace.
Indeed. For lots more details on the swaybar bushings, brackets, as end links, see this thread:
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15615
If you go to the last page you'll see specifics on part numbers.
sounds like a brake shield, grab a hammer and take off tire and use a flashlight to see the gap on the back side of it where it might be rubbing on the rotors, just did this to mine now all is good.G'day folks. I have a stock 06 Commander Sport. 3.0L Turbo Diesel. Currently at 156k kilometres or 96933 miles. I'm in Australia and my pride and joy is right hand drive. I'm hoping that someone here may be able to help me diagnose a loud rattle I have in the front left hand side. I apologise if this is long but I figure put as much info here to hopefully get a solution. What I have is a loud, metallic sounding rattle on the passenger side. It comes in about ten-fifteen minutes into a drive and persists until shutdown. It occurs on all road surfaces from new to rough and as much as I try to avoid potholes, they don't seem to make the noise any better or worse. As I said it sounds metallic and flutters kind of like a playing card in the spokes of your bicycle when you were a kid. The vibrations can be felt in the pedals all the way over on the right hand side, and I can feel it/something shift forward when braking and back when I apply throttle. It is most prevalent at about 40kph. It first occurred in November last year. I put in in to my local mechanic who does a lot of modern 4X4 and european models and it came back good as new. Vibration and noise gone and a happy customer. The only front end work they did was replace front disc rotors and pads. In May this year the noise came back. Loud and shaky as ever. During this time I'd driven a lot. I relocated with my job interstate, about 1600kms, and started driving almost 80km round trip each day to work. I immediately stopped driving the vehicle and found a reputable 4X4 service centre in my new town and booked it in for a service and try and fix the source of the noise. These guys gave it a real good go over. I took a senior mechanic with me on a short drive so he could hear the noise, he had his suspicions as to the culprit and I let them have at it. They replaced all the front ball joints at some expense but the noise was still there. Its not as bad as it was previously but it still there. They've been over the vehicle very thoroughly but are at a loss as to the source of the noise. As a new customer to them I don't doubt their competence and they have assured me that everything that is meant to be tight is and all moving parts are working as designed.This is a link to a video I found on youtube. The sound pretty much matches what I am hearing and the shifting back and forth looks like a match too, except that the Commander has a different suspension setup. If anyone out there has any ideas or has come across this problem before I'd love to hear from you. I've sorted a few other minor issues with my commander from reading threads on this site and you all seem to be my best hope at nailing this sucker. Cheers
@jackalopes822 This thread is 9 years old so he probably got the issue fixed a long time ago. Also, he has not been on the forum since August 2014. And since you are new to the forum, would you please make an introductory post in the New Member Section and tell us a little about your Commander? Thanks.sounds like a brake shield, grab a hammer and take off tire and use a flashlight to see the gap on the back side of it where it might be rubbing on the rotors, just did this to mine now all is good.
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