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Hey guys, long time crawler, first time poster here. I'm looking for some better headlights for my Commander. I was thinking of some HIDs but there's so much information out there I get lost in trying to find out what I need. So, has anyone done this before? Do I need a big kit or can I just switch out the bulbs and be good? If anyone has a link of where I can pick up whatever it is I need, I'd really appreciate it.

Also, anyone ever cleaned their headlights? If so, what did you use?
 

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Go to VVME's website. Some if the best hids you can buy. Or even ddm tuning. Enter your jeep. I think low beams are 9006 but I can't remember I installed mine a year or so ago. Get the red standard kit. Also get a relay to run them off your battery so you don't have flickering.
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Best HID kit hands down is from TheRetrofitSource. Costs about $150-$200, but it is amazing how much work they put into it.

Otherwise, you can get away with a cheaper kit without issue. Just use a relay and make sure all the connections are good. Adjust the headlights afterwards, and you will have light scatter no matter what.
 

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Our vehicles use 9006 bulbs for the low beams. You'll want a 3Five ballast set, you can pick the bulb color temperature (as well as opting for standard or their more expensive XB35 bulbs), and the Mopar specific relay.

This kit has all you need and comes discounted with the standard bulbs. You can also order these items individually with the advanced bulbs and request a discount via customer service.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=18639

Bear in mind this is a very expensive kit. You can get ones on other sites (such as DDM Tuning) for about $50. Quality won't be near the same, but it'll work nonetheless.
 

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Best HID kit hands down is from TheRetrofitSource. Costs about $150-$200, but it is amazing how much work they put into it.

Otherwise, you can get away with a cheaper kit without issue. Just use a relay and make sure all the connections are good. Adjust the headlights afterwards, and you will have light scatter no matter what.
Not true. I've had my set for over a year with no problems what so ever. I paid $45 with a relay. I have buddies that paid for $50 sets by vvme and ddm tuning for over 3 years with no problems.


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I understand you may not have issues with it, but I guarantee the quality of the components and engineering (if you will) does not compare. Look at this versus your typical relay...

 

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I understand you may not have issues with it, but I guarantee the quality of the components and engineering (if you will) does not compare. Look at this versus your typical relay...

Looks pretty similar to mine lol. I just see no point in spending ~$200 for something that may be just a little but better vs $50 that will work perfectly for as long as you own the vehicle. As long as it's installed properly.


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I ended up ordering from VVME, the price was just too good to at least not try then out. If they fail and end up sucking I'll spend the extra dime on the retrofit store. One question I do have though, VVME sent me two boxes, both look exactly the same and have no markings saying which bulb is in each one. How do I tell the different between the 9005 and 9006 bulbs?
 

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9006 bulbs won't fit in a 9005 socket, but 9005 will fit in 9006 (loosely).

The tab placement and width of the bulb base are the difference. You can use Google images to see what I'm talking about, or just do fit tests.
 

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2 options

have retrofit source take your stock headlights and add 2 or 4 projectors to them, probably $500+ dollars,

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find the OEM commander xenon headlights with projectors and ballasts, I usually see them on ebay or junkyard websites for $700 each, and thats used. new they cost not too much more, not sure about the wiring might need a little customization.

anything else will just make your jeep blind everyone like a honda tuner boy.
 

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Looks pretty similar to mine lol. I just see no point in spending ~$200 for something that may be just a little but better vs $50 that will work perfectly for as long as you own the vehicle. As long as it's installed properly.


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Coming from someone that has installed many HID kits in cars, DDM kits are very low quality. They work on a budget but if you have the $$ kits from TRS are by far superior. DDM kits come with many bulbs that have flimsy plastic flanges on most bulbs that should have metal. There bulb color ratings are not very accurate (5000k and 6000k bulbs are the same from them) and there ballest tend to fail prematurity and they dislike being fired up when cold.

And thw wiring harness above is constructed much sturdier then the ddm style (ive used booth)

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I went with the VVME kit, got the lights figured out, turns out they had small tags on the harness. The installation was incredibly easy once we figured out how the relay figured into the whole mess. Ended up having to cap off a couple wires. Not big deal. Once we figured that out it took maybe 10 minutes to install the high beams.
 
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