I want to thank all that has helped me on this board, it's been fun but it's time for me to move on. I have had so many problems with water leaks it's not funny. My a/c started acting up, my transmission or t-case started slipping, the squeaking from the body mounts drove me crazy. I couldnt take it any more, the water leaks really did it. I went to my dealer and they made it right for me, they traded me out of my Commander and got me into a new Navigator L. So Im saying goodby to Jeep and all of you. Thanks again for all the help, it was fun. I hope none of you have as many problems as I have had in the last 3 months. I wish you all a good life with you and yours. Thank You and good night.