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So I have an 07 Commander Limited with the hemi. I've had it for two months, and loved it for the first month. Now I can't stand it. I'm not sure what I don't like about it other than I can't see anything out of the mirrors. Any advice on what to change to start liking it again? I'd love to go back to a truck but spending that much money is out of the question.
 

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Length alert!!! This reply is longer than I had anticipated! You've been warned!

I dunno about changing your mind; sometimes "buyer's remorse" is right on the money and the purchase wasn't a good fit from the git-go.

That being said, you may take a fairly large financial hit - depends on what you paid for the Commander, of course, and what the local market will bring for it.

If you cannot afford a truck, and a truck is what you want, selling the Commander may leave you with the same problem - wanting one type of vehicle while being able to afford only a different type. (Thus the lack of a Ferrari in my driveway...).

However - the mirror issue may be easily resolved; I've added convex mirrors to the bottom of each of the outside mirrors on my '08 Commander and adjusted them properly with the interior mirror to remove any blind spots. If the issue is one of rear vision, perhaps adding a rear view camera linked to a screen on the dash might resolve the issue. Such camera setups have come down in price over the last couple of years. I can't comment on the practicality of such a system for you - everyone's mileage varies.

There are things I would improve on my '08; I'd prefer better seats (I've the standard cloth interior), there are times when I long for a Hemi (I've the six banger), I'm still using the cockeyed magnetic CB antenna when on the highway (I've not yet gotten around to purchasing/installing the left front fender CB antenna).

Overall, tho, as I walk through parking lots or watch other vehicles on the road I see nothing that I would prefer to drive on a daily basis better than I like my Jeep.

The key is "on a daily basis" - on the highway some days I regret selling my Corvette and Marauder; on nice days I miss the Wrangler I returned to the dealer for the Commander, and so on.

I'd recommend making a list - what features of the Commander disappoint you that you cannot upgrade, what features are missing that you cannot add, what characteristics of the vehicle make it unpalatable to you.

If you absolutely, positively must have a pickup bed - then the Commander (and your checkbook) are doomed. If it's a vague dissatisfaction with the way the Jeep rides or handles, or the sound system is sub-par (my Jeep's sound system...well, let's just say it's better than having an A.M. transistor radio hanging from the rear view mirror...but not by much), such items as those can be addressed without replacing the entire vehicle.

(I'm waiting for the stock tires to wear out on my '08; I really want something with more aggressive tread that is better in deep snow - but not enough to take the financial hit of discarding good tires for better ones before the good tires are worn out).

I look at Jeeps (Commander, Wrangler, et. al.) as good starting points; to me these vehicles cry out for customization. Each Jeep owner can make the vehicle their own; if the owner likes big tires, then slap big tires on the beastie. I had a winch on my last Wrangler even though I don't go off roading or camping. I simply loved the looks of the thing on the Jeep (and knowing it was fully functional was a bonus).

Is there a way to modify your new Commander to bring it in line with what would be the perfect vehicle for you? If the answer is, "No, I screwed this one up, I really want/need a pickup" then I'd advise letting the Jeep go to a new home where it will be happy and you get the pickup truck you really want/need.

Only you can determine if the Commander is a poor fit for your needs and desires (and don't get confused, "needs" and "desires" are sometimes contradicting specs).

HTH a little bit - I've titled over 40 vehicles since I got my first car in 1966 and not all of them have been happy matches. I bought this T-Bird in the dark once and in the daylight...well, never mind about that. The short answer is, if you can fix the Commander to meet your desires, go for it. If you can't then accept that you've made a mistake and move on.

(There are many a driver who can relate to your pain; hope you get the issue resolved).

Jim
 

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Get out and hit a trail with other members and you will love the Commander again.
 

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I don't "need" a truck at all, I just want one again. There are a few things that I'll need to change to the Jeep since I'm probably going to end up keeping it for a while. Though I just got new tires on it as part of the deal with buying it. I love the look of the Jeep, and know it would look badass with a lift and some meats. I just am not sure if that will change my mind about it. I can't put my finger on just one thing I don't like, there's just something that makes me unhappy with it. I love the ride and the power (it has more than my truck did). We'll see, I'm going to be looking at some pictures of members' Commanders and see if adding a few things will help change my mind.
 

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I love the ride and the power (it has more than my truck did). We'll see, I'm going to be looking at some pictures of members' Commanders and see if adding a few things will help change my mind.
Make sure to click on my "Knappster's Garage" thread for build ideas (link under my signature).
 

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I'm checking out some mods right now. 49er fan, I like some of the things you've done, I may have to put a few things on my Jeep and maybe I'll like it. It's weird, this is the third Jeep I've owned, and the first one I didn't like..
 

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I am perplexed as to what caused you to start hating it.. I owned a 2003 Jeep GC that I loved. Now I have a larger interior, QDII which is awesome off-road and I have never noticed a blind spot. If you had a Jeep GC, you would notice going from an inch less clearance stock to 1.5 inches more clearance with the 2" RC lift. Plus you would probably like the level look alot better.

Also, you might want to check the shocks, bushings, etc. with a 2007 because it is possible the ride isn't as tight? Hard to say based on your first post. Good luck with it. It will grow back on you.
 

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I'm not sure what made me start hating it either. I owned a 90 XJ and a 99 WJ and liked both of them. I'm trying to decide if a lift will change my mind about the Commander. I'm also trying to think of other mods that may change my mind.
 

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I hated the Commanders when they came out, and now that I own one I cant say enough possitive things about it. A lift and tires really helped, IMHO, but being able to load up the kid, 2 boxers, all our gear and be able to relax on a trail ride in comfort is what really sets this Jeep appart.
 

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One thing I didn't like about my Commander at first was the limited visabilty with the inside rear view mirror. Found folding down the third row seats improved it greatly, only use them once in a great while. I also rely greatly on the backup sensors. Funny sometimes when backing up in a parking lot an occupied car behind me starts honking their horn not knowing I can get within inches without hitting them.
 

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Visiblity is your only complaint, not gas mileage!, adjust your mirrors. I came from a Liberty Renegade to this so I love it. Removed my 3rd row and interior is otherwise unchaged. The exterior mods made a huge difference. 5 years old, 106K, and feels like brand new. My Liberty I was tired of in 3 months, Commander... NEVER
 

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I have a few beefs with mine:

1. Hard to see out the windshield sometimes - like when you're first at a red light and have to duck down a tad to see the light.

2. Gas mileage on the Hemi - wish there was a mod to tweak the MDS to not disengage so easily.

3. Entering addresses on the REC Nav is painful.

4. There's really no good place to install a normal-sized two-way radio, nor the antenna for same. I've worked around it, but I'm still not happy with the results.

5. The third row is only fit for children, midgets, or adults you dislike; and they obstruct rear vision (as noted above).


I deal with these issues (well, a new radio is on order, so #3 is not going to be an issue much longer!). However, there's also things I LOVE about the Commander that make the above mostly go away:


1. Stepping on the gas pedal - hard. Nice to know that I have that power when I need it, even though I know I am using up most of a tank of gas per pedal push. :)

2. The combination of the wood/black interior and saddle brown seats is much classier than I could have imagined while looking at the brochure.

3. I like having the cargo capacity or passenger capacity depending on my needs. With the wife's van, if I want cargo capacity, I'm lifting out seats. With the Commander, it's flip-flip-flip done.

4. Auto wipers with auto delay - you have no clue how awesome this is until you use it for a while in changing rain conditions and then do the same in a car that doesn't have it.

5. Auto headlights/auto brights - same as above. They could stand a tad of tweaking, I suppose.

6. It's QUIET for the amount of HP it has.

7. I've had it on trails, in sand, etc, and it has never let me down. No lift, BTW, no special tires. I'm sure I'd be more impressed if I lifted it and got larger/more capable tires, but $$$ and needs don't justify it.

8. The intangible "it just feels right". It feels like an extension of me that is hard to put into words. "It was made for me" kinda thing. I get a shot of testosterone every time I get behind the wheel. :)
 

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I struggled with the driver seat. With my GC I sunk right into it almost like it wrapped around you.. where as the Commander seat I felt the opposite. I felt I was moving all over that seat. It took me a while to adjust.
I keep my third row seat down almost full time to see out the back to take care of that blind issue. Also the mirror suggestion might not be a bad idea to try.
 

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I've adjusted my mirrors several times. The only way it seems that I can see out of them properly is if I raise the seat. Then my head is in the roof and I feel like I'm feet above the dash and steering wheel. I don't complain about the gas mileage because I wouldn't have gotten a vehicle like this if I wanted good mpg.
 

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I dont know what to tell ya, It is one of those vehicles you will love or hate. I love mine and I get compliments on it all the time
 

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Well I'm contemplating adding a lift, even though I won't be able to afford tires for quite some time. I think I just need to add something to make it "mine."
 
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