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Hey all,

I need some advice on my stereo unit.

I currently have an aftermarket radio in my Commander and am wanting to change it to either factory Nav or a pioneer Avic 6200 with backup camera. Obviously the factory Nav will fit just fine in the dash, but the pioneer won’t, neither will the back up camera.
 

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Honestly, I think you'd be better off with the Pioneer. You'd be taking many steps backwards with the factory Nav unit.

Do you have the dash bezel for Nav or the basic system? If you have the bezel for Nav, either unit will fit, and I'm pretty sure that if you have the other bezel neither will fit. That being said, the Pioneer unit and all double DIN systems are much smaller than the factory Nav unit, so you'll need an additional aftermarket bezel to fill in the extra space, if you don't already have one for your current head unit. There are plenty of options out there. Most adapters match the factory bezel pretty well, so you likely won't be too bothered by it.

Factory nav has far fewer options available. Its only major features over a basic unit are Sirius radio, a 6 disc changer, and navigation. If you have the factory VES system it'll also integrate with that.

The Pioneer will have navigation as well, and you can buy a SiriusXM tuner if you'd like to integrate that. In addition you'll get a touch screen, bluetooth, backup camera, audio inputs, etc... You'll only lose out on the 6 disc changer and VES integration.

Ultimately, it depends on whether you'll end up using the additional features. Having upgraded to a Pioneer AVIC-X920bt, I don't think I could ever go back to a basic system with no bluetooth or audio inputs. However, at least in the era of my Pioneer, their navigation was absolutely awful. Hoepfully they'll have worked that out by now.
 

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Thanks for your opinion. You’re right in that the double din unit is just a bit small for the Nav bezel. My only other concern is the back up camera...I have the base model latch but did get the limited version from HefferCow and the part out but the camera that came with it doesn’t fit into the space, see photo. Any suggestions where I should mount it?
 

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It looks like a similar model to mine, the NC-BD5. If it is a newer model, and fits into the same footprint, it may fit directly above your license plate. The way I mounted mine was just using double sided tape onto the small section between the license plate and the trim piece. It's a perfect fit, though it does make grabbing the handle to open the hatch slightly more difficult. I'll try to get a picture of my solution tomorrow to give you an idea what I'm talking about.
 

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I've got an album of the full size images here that you can take a look at. The mounting tabs are actually attached to the body between the trim piece and license plate, and fit perfectly.

https://imgur.com/a/X8bEi
 

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Wow that looks quite good. How did you handle the trim for the dash? The trim piece I have is just a tad small for the space
 

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I used the Metra 99-6510 dash kit. It fits perfectly, but does require two trim rings to fit properly around a double din stereo. I wouldn't recommend it, because it's very difficult to get everything to line up properly.
 
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