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Hi everybody!

Just signed up because I'm buying a 2007 commander limited with the 3.0 diesel!

Hope I'm making a good purchase, I've wanted one since they came out. I've got the tan interior but I would have loved the black. Not available in France though, tough nuggets.

I'm hoping to find too much information on the mods possible to make this baby unique and the way I like it. I'm never going to sell it. I'll keep it until it dies and then some. When I buy another vehicle, this will be my camping rig.

Catch you on the flipside!

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Hi everybody!

Just signed up because I'm buying a 2007 commander limited with the 3.0 diesel!

Hope I'm making a good purchase, I've wanted one since they came out. I've got the tan interior but I would have loved the black. Not available in France though, tough nuggets.

I'm hoping to find too much information on the mods possible to make this baby unique and the way I like it. I'm never going to sell it. I'll keep it until it dies and then some. When I buy another vehicle, this will be my camping rig.

Catch you on the flipside!

Cheers,

Jeff
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Welcome to the forum Jeff; That picture of your Commander is pretty small, maybe post some larger pics when you can.

I've been to France several times in my life - Marseille, Cannes, Toulon, Paris & Nice just to name a few cities I've been to over there - I even went to the top of the Eifel Tower. France is a great country, I've always had a good time over there. Most of that was when I was younger, I haven't been there in the last 25 years or so.

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Thanks Blue!

I'm going to do my homework and start saving money for some goodies. Is there a mod from everything I've read so far that is indispensable? At least for the first 6 months?

France is a very beautiful place I do agree, but one problem I have with it is the lack of offroading trails, at least on the whereabouts of my home. And the fact that you can't set up camp anywhere you want in the forest ?

I read that the commander tends to have a bit of body roll, do you think a small, stiffer lift would help with that problem?
 

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Thanks Blue!

I'm going to do my homework and start saving money for some goodies. Is there a mod from everything I've read so far that is indispensable? At least for the first 6 months?

France is a very beautiful place I do agree, but one problem I have with it is the lack of offroading trails, at least on the whereabouts of my home. And the fact that you can't set up camp anywhere you want in the forest ?

I read that the commander tends to have a bit of body roll, do you think a small, stiffer lift would help with that problem?
They do tend to have body roll because they are somewhat of a high profile vehicle and are a little top-heavy too; Raising it higher would give it even more of a tendency to roll - but stiffer springs can help compensate for that to some degree.

In my opinion, Commanders will always be top heavy with some degree of body roll, regardless of what lift & springs you use.
 

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Well guess what I just read that bust my balls!

We can't modify anything on our vehicles in France. It wouldn't pass the homologation criteria. no big wheels, no lift, no bumpers, and I have to take it to get the lights homologated if I have a light bar put in since it's not a factory part and not approved by the European Comission. Cool. There are still mods that I CAN do with the loopholes and blanks in the laws and regulations, but that's kind of whack. europe sucks for that. :crying:

Is there info on the forum for specs and sizes of at least the suspension? I'm guessing there's not much bolt-on and I'll have to adapt something but if I can find aproximate sizes (height, bolt patterns, etc..) I'll make it look as stock as possible. >:)
 

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Well guess what I just read that bust my balls!

We can't modify anything on our vehicles in France. It wouldn't pass the homologation criteria. no big wheels, no lift, no bumpers, and I have to take it to get the lights homologated if I have a light bar put in since it's not a factory part and not approved by the European Comission. Cool.
Oh WOW....that's a raw deal.

I do love France as a tourist - but if I were a full-time resident, I'd probably move to another country after hearing that if I was in your position right now.....no joke.
 

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Tire brands also help out with control. I have had several full size Ford 15 passenger vans, and BFG's have really stiff sidewalls. I tried some Goodyears on the van and it felt like I was driving on tires with low pressure. Even raising the pressure did not change it. I did not understand the importance of high center of gravity and sidewalls. The BFG's made a huge difference. I bought my Commander about a year and a half ago and put on BFG TKO2's and the control (other than body roll) was markedly different. I also put Billsteins on it and it is far more inspiring in terms of driving.
 

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Tire brands also help out with control. I have had several full size Ford 15 passenger vans, and BFG's have really stiff sidewalls. I tried some Goodyears on the van and it felt like I was driving on tires with low pressure. Even raising the pressure did not change it. I did not understand the importance of high center of gravity and sidewalls. The BFG's made a huge difference. I bought my Commander about a year and a half ago and put on BFG TKO2's and the control (other than body roll) was markedly different. I also put Billsteins on it and it is far more inspiring in terms of driving.
Thanks for the info J10, I don't know what the tires now are on it but I'll change them for the the BFG when I can! As for the bilstein, I saw those and I might buy them first since I'm not going to be lifting it. Would it be better to get the height adjustable ones or any of them will do? Most people buy them when they are lifting their jeep right?
 

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I'd probably move to another country after hearing that if I was in your position right now.....no joke.
I know right?!

Unfortunately that's not in my options ? I'm almost finished building my house and I wanna spend a couple years in it. The Mrs and I want to move to Canada sometime in our life though so sooner or later I'll be gone from this restricted place!

For now I'll just stick a trailer with the bikes on it to rip through the woods.
 

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I think it depends on how much of a lift, and what type of lift you do. Mine was fine with the Daystar 2" lift because of how it was engineered. So you may want to check on the specs from the lift supplier to see what they recommend.

The Daystar lift does not look too radical, and it may pass the inspection as there are already bushings (a lot smaller than the new ones, but it does not look too rad). After all, how many Commanders are there? Do they pull out a measuring stick to see what it came with stock? Tough world there! Good luck.
 

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I think it depends on how much of a lift, and what type of lift you do. Mine was fine with the Daystar 2" lift because of how it was engineered. So you may want to check on the specs from the lift supplier to see what they recommend.

The Daystar lift does not look too radical, and it may pass the inspection as there are already bushings (a lot smaller than the new ones, but it does not look too rad). After all, how many Commanders are there? Do they pull out a measuring stick to see what it came with stock? Tough world there! Good luck.
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I'm glad you are active on the forum - but I've read at least 4 different posts today about your daystar lift - 2 of them I've merged together here. You might consider posting about something else maybe??

Incidentally - you are one of very few people here that have the Daystar lift. Most reviews I've read about it say it does not stand up very well over time, just for your own info - maybe you will be the exception to the rule, who knows?

The vast majority of members here that have a lift, have opted for the Rough Country Lift Kit because it is the most reputable, proven lift kit on the market - as far as spacer lifts go.
 

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I went the Daystar route because my coil/bushing insulators were bad. Most other ones re-use the bushing. It may have been a mistake. Daystar was not very helpful in customer service, they guy was rather short with me saying that I could only use OEM coils/struts. True, as I found out. Went with Bilsteins and am way happier. I recommended the Daystar lift because the French gov't might not notice as much, who knows. Thus far, (around 2K) they seem fine, we shall see.

I am relatively new to the posting, not viewing though as I am grateful. I love my Jeep, they kind of get into your soft spots and stay. I will try to see where I can give some help.
 

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Holy bejeezus I love this thing! Picked it up on Tuesday night and I just have to say that I am very impressed not only with the handling, but the comfort as well!

I have to adjust my headlight up a bit and fix a windshield wiper but that's about it! Very pleased altogether. I don't even know if it needs a lift. But I may do it anyways heheh. There are tolerances, as I read on French forums, that as long as it doesn't cause to much deviation from what it is stock. I just can't change the overall tire diameter otherwise my insurance won't cover anything.

Count me in as one of the boys fellas, I'm hooked!
 

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Holy bejeezus I love this thing! Picked it up on Tuesday night and I just have to say that I am very impressed not only with the handling, but the comfort as well!

I have to adjust my headlight up a bit and fix a windshield wiper but that's about it! Very pleased altogether. I don't even know if it needs a lift. But I may do it anyways heheh. There are tolerances, as I read on French forums, that as long as it doesn't cause to much deviation from what it is stock. I just can't change the overall tire diameter otherwise my insurance won't cover anything.

Count me in as one of the boys fellas, I'm hooked!
You going to post some pics??
 

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I think it worked.

I want to get rid of all the chrome. I think it's tacky. I'd rather have everything black. Before I keep looking, has anyone seen the chrome bits sold in any other color?

I'm going to add an led bar light, better fog lights, the bilsteins (if I don't have to lift it) and maybe some wheels with some offset so I don't have to put spacers on. (How much is too much offset?)

Otherwise I wish my interior was black but the tan brings a lot of light in! I'm a happy camper!
 

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I think it worked.

I want to get rid of all the chrome. I think it's tacky. I'd rather have everything black. Before I keep looking, has anyone seen the chrome bits sold in any other color?

I'm going to add an led bar light, better fog lights, the bilsteins (if I don't have to lift it) and maybe some wheels with some offset so I don't have to put spacers on. (How much is too much offset?)

Otherwise I wish my interior was black but the tan brings a lot of light in! I'm a happy camper!
Yep, it worked fine, it looks good.

Opinions vary on the chrome, some guys like it some guys don't.

My Sport had no chrome on it at all when I bought it and it looked very plain and blah with all the faded black crap that it had on it.

I actually added some chrome & stainless steel Big Blue to brighten her up a bit and it made all the difference in the world and yet there is still enough black on her to balance it all out pretty nicely in my opinion.

I myself, am not a fan of the blackout look that so many guys seem to try and go for - but, to each his own.
 

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I know what you mean Blue, I prefer red and black, and I'm looking for a place that can wrap the car in Satin Red cause that's my favorite color :) which truly is a lot tackier than chrome in some people's eyes.
 
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