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The 4.7 Liter “Next Generation” and “semi-Hemi” V8 Engine (Dodge - Jeep)

4.7 liter v8Chrysler’s first truly new V-8 since the 1960s, the Next Generation 4.7 (briefly dubbed “Corsair”) had better power, gas mileage, and emissions than the 318 V8 it replaced; a new truck V6, the 3.7, was based on it, as well. The engine was reportedly designed as a replacement for the 4-liter AMC I-6, with the 3.7 to replace the AMC 2.5. According to Bob Sheaves, the concept originated at AMC, before the company joined Chrysler.

EGR and knock sensors were added in 2005. In model year 2008, Chrysler replaced the 4.7 liter V8 with a new version. Power went from 230 hp to 290 hp (and up to 320 lb-feet of torque) with that move; gas mileage went up, and noise and vibration went down. The new 4.7-liter V-8 features 5.7-Hemi features such as two spark plugs per cylinder, with a high 9.8:1 compression ratio, and better port flow; but it has a new slant/squish combustion system design.

Refinements included significant revisions to the induction system, reduced reciprocating mass via a lightweight piston/rod assembly, and reduced accessory drive speed. A new normally open valve lash adjuster system smooths the engine at idle, while electronic throttle control is needed for new stability systems. The engine will be manufactured at the Mack Avenue Engine Complex in Detroit.

Production is slated to end in July 2013, according to “pgcooldad,” a date which corresponds to other sources. No plans have been raised for the plant itself; the 3.7 V6 equipment will move to Trenton in summer 2012. He wrote, “I believe that dealers want the 4.7L because they can offer the customer an upgrade, the Hemi. Once the Hemi is the base engine it no longer becomes ‘premium.’” The 3.6 V6 produces around the same horsepower, but falls around 60 lb-ft of torque short, an issue for trucks.

Chrysler's New Cammer: Mopar’s first all-new production V8 in 41 years

By RICK EHRENBERG. Copyright © 1999 by Rick Ehrenberg. Used by permission.

This article covers the 1999-2007 version. For muscle cars and more, read Mopar Action!

The new 287 is just that, new, sharing almost nothing but a heritage with the ol'reliables. For starters, it's the first true production Mopar V8 mill to incorporate aluminum cylinder heads ( okay, we know about the 1965 A-990 Hemi ) a plastic intake manifold, and magnesium valve covers. Nothing is re-hashed here, and the combustion chambers are almost hemispherical !

And, although it might take a year or two, we'll bet that variants of this powerplant - the "C" engine? - with more or less cylinders, and varying internal dimensions will replace virtually all RWD gasoline powerplants now in the Chrysler stable. In other words, this is a real milestone. So let's take a detailed tour of what's what, what fits what, and start some good rumors about where DC will take this engine in the future. We'll begin at the lower extremities.

Bottom end of the Corsair 4.7

Virtually all dimensions of the cast-iron block are new. The bore spacing is reduced from the 1955-1998 small block's 4.46 to 4.09" - this an indicator of how large the new engine eventually could (or could not) be enlarged to. Basic bore size is 3.66," larger yes, than a 273 (by a mere 0.030) but smaller than all the other A-engines - the 318, even going back to the 1950s, was always 3.9." Why ? Small bores are easier to clean up for emissions. Speaking of bores, the roundness is held to a maximum of 0.00015", and taper to 0.0006" - virtually race engine specs.

4.7 liter V8 engine

Deck height is 9.09," compared to 9.60 for the ol’ LA mill. As a even more profound indicator of jest how new the new design really is, even the offset of the LH cylinder bank is reduced.

Like the current LA-based V10, the 287 doesn't use individual main-bearing caps. Instead, what Chrysler calls a 'bedplate' (girdle to us old hotrodders) clamps all five mains at once, adding rigidity while reducing noise and vibration. The bedplate is high-tech even to the material - compacted graphite iron. It is sealed to the block with the old standby: RTV silicone sealer. Incidentally, this bedplate is such a beefy piece that disassembly is almost like 'splitting the cases' on a motorcycle engine.

The crankshaft is nodular cast iron, hardened and microfinished. A one piece rear main seal, similar to the 2.2L design, seals to the outside of the 100 mm o.d. rear flange, which is an 8 bolt, one-offset pattern, in Chrysler performance tradition. Main journals are 2.5" diameter, identical to the 318/340 (the 360 is 2.81"), and are crossdrilled. Rod journals are 2.0", 1/8" smaller than the 318's 2.125. All journals have rolled fillets, a significant step taken, in the best racing engines, to prevent stress cracks from forming. Balance is better than 18 gm/cm, and torsional vibrations are looked after by a modern 3 spoke-style snout dampener, with most of the weight placed where it will do the most good - at the outer diameter.
The stroke is 3.405", a shade longer than the 273-340 was at 3.31, but shorter than the 360's 3.58. Still we'd call it a 'short stroke' engine. Looking briefly at the block, there is room for some stroke increase. Having the cam out of the way helps a lot.

4.7 Chrysler v8

Carrying on a performance small-block tradition begun with the 1968 340, all bearings are bi-metal Federal Mogul aluminum alloy. As in all production small blocks, only the upper half of the mains are grooved. Unlike the previous smallblock, however, thrust isn't taken by a lip on #3 main. Instead, two (front and rear) separate 180-degree thrust bearing/washers float on the top half of the usual (for Mopar) #3 main journal.
Connecting rods. Yes! The long-rod Mopar tradition continues. The 6.12" length, same as all LA engines have always been, puts rod/stroke ratio at a very favorable 1.80, better than the current 360, and only a shade worse than the 273-340.

But the traditional forged steel rod is gone. Now you'll find powder-forged metal cracked rods [until model year 2008, when they switched to 36MnVS4 forged steel — thanks, Chris). In this process, first used by Chrysler in the 2.0L SOHC Neon engine, the rods are produced and machined in one piece. Then the caps are literally cracked off, guillotined if you will, resulting in an absolutely perfect mating surface that almost lock together, preventing cap walk. Fasteners are hardened M9 capscrews threaded directly into the rod, no nuts are used. Rod weight is 556 grams, compared to 726 to 758 grams for various production LA-engine rods. 0.945" wrist pins, weighing in at 143 grams, are press-fit in the rods.

Compression ratio is "blueprint" (and advertised) at 9.5:1, and typically measures 9.0:1. Regular (87) fuel is recommended. But the design allows for high-compression domed pistons in the future. [Webmaster note: these are used on the high output version, though this is a single-vehicle engine: Grand Cherokee only.]

Pistons are cast aluminum, have moly coated skirts for break-in scuff resistance, and weigh 366 grams. They are fitted at 0.0008-0.0020" skirt clearance - rather snug but nothing unusual for a street engine. The usual 3-groove ring pack is used (.062/.062/.120") but in addition to the common plasma-moly-filled top rings, the second ring is chrome. Oil rings are chrome as well, with a stainless expander. Bucking the current trend, the oil ring tension is rather high (12 lbs) allowing good oil control even in high-mileage engines. In fact, the spec for the 95th percentile customer is 150,000 mile useful life.

In the never ending quest to reduce emissions, the distance from the top ring groove to the top of the piston has been reduced to only 1/8th of an inch, making these areas susceptible to excess wear and heat. To combat this, the top ring land, and the area from the land to the head, are hard anodized.

No oversized pistons are available, and the replacement pistons/rods are supplied only as an assembly. Can you say aftermarket?

The oiling system isn't radical, using a clever design first seen on the AMC V8s: the georotor-type pump is mounted in the timing cover, and is driven off the crank snout. Direct drive, unlike the current LA engine, which, if you think about it, is a nightmare. The oil pump drive torque comes off the crank nose, through the chain, to the cam, back through the full length of the cam, through a bevel gearset to the intermediate shaft, and then through a hexagonal drive to the pump itself. Whew ! Can you say, simplified ?

The new, block mounted pump has a 75 psi relief valve, and a displacement of approx 1 cubic inch per revolution. The oil pan is stamped steel, includes a windage tray (integral with the pan gasket) and has a capacity of 5 quarts plus one in the filter. Pump clearances are designed for the recommended 5W30 oil [this appears to have changed to 5W20, probably with the 2008 model year].

Topside - 4.7 liter “Next Generation” Heads

They are Chrysler's first real production light-alloy V8 cylinder heads. Semi-permanent mold aluminum castings, the heads break no new ground but are nonetheless state-of-the-art. Head bolts are 11mm, but the meat is there for a future upgrade to a performance version 12mm. The head bolt pattern is the same for each cylinder (and almost perfectly square at 4.00 x 4.10"), and retains the traditional LA 10 bolt per head arrangement. A super quality 3 layer laminated stainless steel gasket seals the deal. The heads are 'handed' - ie. not interchangeable side to side, mostly because the ports are in a different order left to right.

The intake valves are 1.89", and the exhausts are 1.46," in keeping with the latest Detroit theories regarding Intake:Exhaust valve diameter ratio. With the intake splayed at 13 degrees, the 64cc combustion chamber is approximately hemispherical in shape.

Typical Mopar 3-groove, flash-chromed stems, hardened tips, and a length of 4.45" gives you an idea of the valve package - nothing radical, but a generous intake size for the displacement. Guides are press-in, and the stem diameter is approximately 9/32" - even smaller than the 5/16" used on Hemis and Magnum V8s. This is obviously to improve flow and reduce friction. Springs are moderate, but adequate, given the 6,000 RPM fuel shutoff point. But the valve actuation - that is something else again. Gone are the pushrods - forever [editor’s note: they came back on the Hemi...!].

A head mounted camshaft on each cylinder head operates the valves through a set of needle bearing roller rocker arms, with opposite-end hydraulic lash adjusters acting as the fulcrum, a system not unfamiliar to anyone who's ever played with an 1988 or newer Trenton I-4 (2.2 or 2.5L). But looky here, the Intake and Exhaust rockers are opposite each other. Yup, it's almost a Hemi.

The cams are each driven by a separate chain, each of which are driven off an idler, in the approximate location of the ol'LA's cam sprocket. This idler sprocket, in turn, is driven from the crank in typical pushrod practice timing set fashion. The camshafts themselves are radical - although not in lift or duration. These are truck engines, after all: 0.443" lift on the intake, and 0.429" on the exhaust, duration is 244 degrees intake, 254 on the exhaust, partially compensating for the smallish exhaust valves. Overlap is only 18 degrees. This is an emissions, and torquer motor, remember.

What makes the cams radical isn't the timing, but the construction. They are hollow steel tubes with the individual lobes, of powdered metal, sinter-bonded in place. In fact, the cams, being hollow, are used to bring oil to the intake lobes, which have oiling holes. Cam (valve) covers are cast magnesium.

The ports are 1.86 square inches at the port face, and the injectors are mounted to the port in the head, not the intake manifold, which as we shall see, is made of polymer.

Speaking of intakes, this is another cool deal - literally. Following in the footsteps of 'little cousin 2.0 SOHC,' the manifold is a one piece glass filled nylon thingie. With a lengthwise plenum and 8 cross-over ram-type ports, it's quite a shock, especially if you are used to LD-340s and M-1s. Runner length (in manifold only) is 20 inches, and there's quite a bit of port length in the heads, so the mill clearly isn't designed for 8,500 RPM passes. But the all-plastic construction should go a long way toward keeping charge-air temperatures down, aiding HP production.

Up top, a single bore, side draft throttle body measures 2.56" diameter. If that sounds small, remember that a medium sized Holley 4-barrel has typically bores of 1.625." Doing the math, that computes to 8.3 square inches for the carb, and 5.1 square inches for the EFI throttle body. But remember that the carb has to pass the air around not only the throttle blades, but through the much smaller - and more restrictive - venturis. We're willing to bet that this throttle assembly passes about as much air as a 600 CFM carburetor ! Not bad for a 287-inch powerplant, eh ?

Exhaust manifolds appear to be logs, especially in the initial Jeep version (We expect the Dodge truck ones to be better.) But they are, in reality, individually ported, and not nearly as bad as they look. Heat shield over them is super high-tech - aluminum core with stainless on each side.


There are two interesting electronics-related details worth noting. First, this engine has coil-on-plug ignition. No plug wires, a separate ignition coil mounts to each plug. This something all us guys with headers and toasted plug wires can really appreciate.

Even wilder is the absence of a throttle cable - it's fly by wire, dudes. All you're doing when you mash the 'gas' is sending a signal to the computer, which will, hopefully, respond faster than "All ahead full....aye, aye, captain."

The Future

Will the 287 replace the 318 in Dodge trucks, SUV's and vans? Definitely, by the fall of 1999 for sure. But here's where our engineering analysis ends and sheer speculation begins, guys. There's no secret mad of the fact that a V6 version will be available soon. Will it replace the LA-based V6? Absolutely. Will it replace the current Jeep I6? Probably. Will the 287 power the Prowler? Sure, makes sense to us. But will there be larger versions built to replace the 360, and the 488 inch V10 in the trucks and Viper? Hmm. Surely logical, but with the smallish bore spacing, don't look for this engine in V8 form to go much over 330 inches. Would say, a 325 incher be able to take over from the 360? Why the heck not? The 287 makes virtually the same torque and a tad more HP as the 318 Magnum (albeit at a greater RPM) so why couldn't a larger version do as well?

And a 400 inch V10, in a SOHC (forked rocker arm)/ 4 valve arrangement, could, with a bit more radical valve timing, a bit more squeeze (say 11.0:1) bigger ports, and shorter intake runners, should have no trouble making 475-500 HP.

Historical perspective: Rick was right about replacing the LA V6 and even the Jeep I6, but the Prowler was cut loose and, while a high-output 4.7 temporarily replaced the 360 in the Grand Cherokee, the Hemi would take the 360’s place. The 4.7 would not be made larger, though it did get a substantial makeover.

Hot Rodding

Where will the aftermarket - and Mopar Performance - take the 287? There's already a supercharger setup from Performance West, and available through any Jeep dealer. But less radical upgrades would seem to be quite easy. Revised, premium fuel calibration - more spark advance, and a tad more fuel in the form of a computer chip flash would seem to be almost a must. There's room for larger valves, the Mopar machine shops are probably already plotting how they'll re-contour and flow the heads; headers are almost guaranteed, along with a less restrictive air intake setup, and Crane or Comp Cams will surely have cams for it. In other words, we see no reason why this engine can't respond to all the usual hot rodding techniques, and then some. In fact, with such a bountiful set of basic ingredients, hot rodding this engine seems a natural.

This is roughly what Chrysler told us about the first generation

On the Jeep, it is mated with an all-new, electronically-controlled transmission with five forward ratios. An alternate second gear ratio will provide improved performance. A 3.7 liter version of the 4.7 is used on the 2002 and up Jeep Liberty (known as the Cherokee outside North America).

The 4.7 has, on the Jeep, 235 horsepower (over 172 kW) and 295 lb.-ft. (400 Nm) of torque, slightly more power than the 318. It produces 30% less pollution, noise, vibration, and harshness. Fuel economy is 7% better with the new four-speed automatic. The engine has more pulling power, faster initial acceleration, and three miles per gallon better economy.

Buddy Revell pointed out that the new engine is "almost" a Hemi - "the only reason it isn't called a hemi is because the combustion chambers have a wall on one side that makes it look kind of like a flat tire. Other than that everything is in the same arangment. The valve springs are across from each other and the spark plug goes right down the middle."

The 4.7 has a cast iron block and two cast aluminum cylinder heads with a single overhead camshaft per bank and two valves per cylinder. It displaces 4701 cm3 (287 cu in.). A relatively small bore of 3.66 inches (93 mm) helped reduce overall length of the engine, packaging it for the compact engine bay of the Grand Cherokee. The stroke is 3.4 inches (86.5 mm).

Breathing features include a new tuned-length runner intake manifold, free-flowing intake and exhaust ports and fast-burn combustion chambers. Operating with a high 9.3:1 compression ratio, the engine still only requires regular-grade fuel.

Lightweight material applications and more efficient engine accessories such as the alternator, power steering pump and air conditioning compressor further bolster performance and economy. Aluminum cylinder heads, a hollow camshaft with sintered steel lobes, magnesium valve covers and a molded composite intake manifold contribute to an overall weight reduction of 54 pounds (24 kg) compared to the previous 5.2-liter engine.

Driveability is enhanced by variable fuel injection timing, sequential multi-port injection, a quick-sensing inlet-side positioned thermostat and coil-on-plug ignition, in which each individual spark plug has its own secondary ignition coil.

To improve fuel economy, the new engine features a patented hybrid cooling fan system that combines in-line electric and engine-driven fans. This system allows the engine fan to idle at a very low speed (250-300 rpm. vs. the typical 650-700 rpm.), decreasing noise and vibration at idle and low speeds. The newly designed cooling system, with a high efficiency water pump and a secondary thermostat control, reduces power consumption by 12 percent (6 bhp/4.5 kW).

The new coil-on-plug ignition system, two-stage chain cam drive with automatic tensioners, premium gaskets and cylinder head mounted fuel injectors are a few of the basic design features that provide for a greatly increased engine life. The engine is designed to operate 150,000 miles (240,000 km) under normal conditions without part replacement other than normal maintenance items. A new automatic serpentine belt tensioner increases the average accessory belt life to 100,000 miles (160,000 km).

Specifications: first and second generations 4.7 liter Chrysler V8 engine

2005 ~ 2008
Compression Ratio
9.5:1~ 9.8:1

Max engine speed
6,000 rpm ~ 6,000 rpm

[email protected],600* 290

[email protected],600* 320

Gas mileage
14/18** ?

* High performance version: 250 hp, 300 lb-ft. ** Measurement system became stricter for 2008; new generation truck.

According to oh20, the 2008-model-year 4.7 was rated at:

Dakota 302 hp @ 5,650 rpm 329 lb-ft @ 3,950 rpm
Aspen / Durango 303 hp @ 5,650 rpm 330 lb-ft @ 3,950 rpm
Grand Cherokee / Commander 305 hp @ 5,650 rpm 334 lb-ft @ 3,950 rpm
Ram 310 hp @ 5,650 rpm 329 lb-ft 3,950 rpm

Common to both generations:
•Type and Description: V-type, liquid-cooled
•Displacement: 287 cu. in. (4701 cu. cm)
•Bore x Stroke: 3.66 x 3.40 (93.0 x 86.5)
•Valve System: Chain driven, SOHC, 16 valves, hydraulic end-pivot roller rockers
•Fuel Injection: Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless
•Construction: Compacted Graphite Iron bedplate, cast-iron block, aluminum alloy heads
•Fuel Requirement: E85 (Ethanol) or Unleaded regular, 87 octane (R+M)/2
•Oil Capacity: 6 qt. (5.7L)
•Emission Controls: Dual three-way catalytic converters, heated oxygen sensors, and internal engine features

Semi-Hemi??? More like Hemi wanna be.

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There are former Jeep/Chrysler engineers and insiders that post on the forums there. Plenty of tech articles and history of vehicle articles, news items about what is upcoming from Chrysler/Jeep.

Hemi refers to the Semi-Hemishperical combustion chamber shape. Honestly it is the positioning of the valve that creates so much advantages for power. Semi-Hemi is also like Penta-Roof designs and others, they also have advantages like the Hemi but NOT exactly the Hemi. The 2.0L/2.4L Inline 4's of the 90's were also referred to as Semi-Hemi, it was a reference to the configuration/design, NOT a boast or marketing hype trying to be a "wanna-be".

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There are former Jeep/Chrysler engineers and insiders that post on the forums there. Plenty of tech articles and history of vehicle articles, news items about what is upcoming from Chrysler/Jeep.

Hemi refers to the Semi-Hemishperical combustion chamber shape. Honestly it is the positioning of the valve that creates so much advantages for power. Semi-Hemi is also like Penta-Roof designs and others, they also have advantages like the Hemi but NOT exactly the Hemi. The 2.0L/2.4L Inline 4's of the 90's were also referred to as Semi-Hemi, it was a reference to the configuration/design, NOT a boast or marketing hype trying to be a "wanna-be".

Yeah I thought it looked like an allpar article...After I posted that reply he edited the post to cite the source.

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Yes I did edit post to cite the source.

I also posted this article months ago here but had lost my user name and password ...
Couldn't remember a thing after I wiped my 'confuser'.


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FYI. The green text is very hard to read. I'm guessing you're using a black background but most readers use white so non-black text renders poorly.

Good article though. I was reading this just a couple weeks back.
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