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Hey, I'm relaively new to the forum. I am running into some problems. Prior to buying my Commander I thought I did alot of research.. Since buying my commander I have had my share of problems. Ie: Transmission cooling lines leaking, ABS problems, recalls and then the problems that follow with lifting a vehicle. Within the the past year of owning my commander I have decided to install a 4" superlift supension lift. I chose to go with mickey thompson classic ii wheels and procom xtreme mud terrain tires. Well I got kinda excited when choosing my wheels and I did not pay attention to what back spacing superlift suggested to use and I chose 4.5". Superlift suggested 5.5" (perfered).... Well now I have ran into so much problems!!!! I am rubbing so bad to where it is cutting into my tires. I have cut out what seems to be a body weld but yet when I make a right turn or hit a bump I hear grinding / rubbing from where my wheels are hitting the body in the wheel well. I don't know what else to do?? Should I go back to stock wheels with wheel spacers or does anyone recommed a different wheel to use?? I cannot find anything other than AEV that makes a wheel with the correct spacing..... Any one have any suggestions??
 

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Not a ton to choose from, but a 17x8.5 with a +25mm offset (same as AEV) would fit fine. You would no longer get any rubbing with a 285/70-17.
 

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Im confused as to where exactly your having rubbing issues. It sounds like you took care of the pinch weld if I understand correctly. Did you either trim or re mold the plastic inner fender well?
 

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yeah i have remolded / cut the plastic inner fender well so much that it looks like crap now. I will try and post some pictures of where it's rubbing and what damage it is causing to my tire. It just seems odd that I'm only having this problem on one side though. I've looked at the specs of wheels that other members are using and it seems they are all around 4.5 " backspacing.
 

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Here are some pictures of the problems I am having with rubbing in my right fender well. As you can see in the pictures my inner fender lining caught my tire and was ripped. It's hard to see in the picture, but if you look at the edge of the tire you can see where it is hitting the body.
 

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I painted a circle on on of your pics. That's my guess as to where it is rubbing.

Have you tried to get it to rub in your driveway and get out and see what is touching or closest to touching? Maybe it only rubs as the suspension is compressed. Maybe you could jack up the other side to compress this side and see if it becomes evident.

Here's the pic marked up:

 

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Another place to check is the clamps on the HVAC lines on the right. When I did mine, one of the clamps had the ends sticking toward the tire and we turned the clamp so they cleared.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions but the area you circled is not the place it's rubbing. Here is a picture that i blocked off showing it. I don't know if this is what you call a body weld, but that is what my tire is hitting. A couple of weeks ago I relized what was going on and I cut it out. But It's still hitting there when my supension starts to compress and only on right turns. Now with the vehicle parked and I turn my wheel it does clear but with very little clearance.
 

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Oh, I see. When I looked at the tire picture, I thought the cut was from the pinch weld, but then when I saw the picture that showed the pinch weld cut down, so then I thought it must be something else. I didn't know you trimmed the pinch weld AFTER there was already cutting on the tire. I assumed you cut it at the time you initially did the install. Now I get it. Sooo,

I don't know how you are going to fix it further if it is still hitting that pinch weld during compression on a right turn. You may have to live with it or change your tires and or wheels.

Edit: You might try hammering down what is left of the pinch weld to bend it over.

What size of tire do you have?

And are you sure it is now hitting the pinch weld? The reason I ask is, I also cut the plastic. And after you cut the plastic, it is no longer as fixed in position as when it was whole. The ends of the plastic can flap a little and get caught by the tire lugs and it sounds bad but isn't really likely to cut the tire. But because there are cuts in the tire already, you might be thinking it is coming from the weld when possibly it is some part of the plastic. Yes/no?

I haven't but some people have used wire ties or other methods to pull the plastic back to gain better clearance. It might be worth a shot.
 

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Well I spent most of the day working on the jeep. It is hitting the body at the pinch weld. I will try hammering it in and see what happens. I removed the paltic piece (below the doors) almost like rocker panel covers or what ever. But that helped. I didn't think it was hitting it but I guessed wrong. I'm running 285/70 R17 size tires. I used some zip ties for the time being to hold back the inner fender well lining. So far it's making a difference but it still is hitting. I think I'm going to deal with it until I need new tires and get something smaller. Thanks for your help.
 

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You could always cut out that entire area of the pinch weld and weld in a piece of steel for reinforcment. If you do it right you can angle the bottom of the steel towards the rear of the vehicle so you gain extra tire clearance.
 

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Here is a picture of what a forum member did to his pinch weld area to fit 34's on a 2 inch spacer lift. Just weld in a reinforcment plate and your all set.

 

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hmmmm. Thanks for the picture. I will see what i can do.
 

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what do you think?

i started noticing that erea in question but up till now it didnt seem as bad ...well its starting to concern me to the point that i just orderd a set of spidertrax spacers (only one set) im goint to ad to the front to see if it clears the erea and i will let you know ......if not i will have to look up the process for cutting or bending the pinch weld and how to remove the inner liner so i should be getting them here in a couple days ...

i have 17x8.5 wheel with 4.5 backspacing but 0 offset ...so i figured an inch and a half spacer would bring that out an inch and a half and maybe clear that erea all together
 
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